Catastrophic only in a sense that they would force us to have CAV if we want to have BOClean. I’m not here to flame Comodo. I registered cause I really like Comodo products. It’s just that I don’t see CAV as a fully reliable solution yet. As many others, I am sure.
I also fear that CAV will be a necessary prerequisite to get BOClean.
In the near future I’m going to stay with Avira AntiVir which plays very nicely along with BOClean. :-TU
I’d hate to give up BOClean but before I switch from Avira to CAV I will ditch BOClean. One has to set priorities and CAV just can’t compete with Avira ATM.
So please keep BOClean as separate part. I don’t mind including it in the installer. So that I can choose upon installation:
[X] Firewall
[X] BOClean
[ ] CAV
Now that is some excellent news, andyman35! Where do you see that being discussed or stated? Link (if it’s not too much trouble)? I am currently using Avira AntiVir Personal 8.2.0.336 as an on-demand scanner, and have felt that the absence of antispyware protection was a huge drawback. I hope it’s coming soon! Thanks for the heads up.
Here are some thoughts in all respectfulness, I have the fullest respect for all who want to keep BOClean separate.
I find it hard to understand the argument that you want it separate because you want something else than CAV (like Avira). Here’s why: Even though CAV may not be as effective as Avira etc. I believe it’s coming along very nicely, now with heuristics and a rapidly growing signature database. But maybe more importantly, I believe BOClean is a pretty narrow product, not known to the great mass. This should mean that most of the users, and most of you who are posting here, are experienced users who rarlely encounter malware - and when you do so - you probably know how to handle it.
My conclusion (based on belief) is that you guys don’t need Avira + BOClean because you expect it to be more secure than CAV w. BOClean integrated, you rather need it because you want freedom of choice. :-La
Hi LeoniAquila,
Freedom of choice is one thing and that is correct by itself.
Another thing to point there is no demanding – we cannot do that. But there are thoughts and suggestions.
And I believe that “it’s coming along very nicely” too.
At the same time, despite “BOClean is a pretty narrow product” as you said, it served its special purpose as Kevin pointed in his replies not once. And the product is known by many for a long time.
Then, if we take CAV with its evolution I have no doubts that eventually (when?) it will be “one of the best” and compete… but nothing more than that. Heuristics, which is already employed for years by others… well, it can be: “not worse than”, “better”, “or the best”. Does it really matter? There will be FPs. Who has doubts?
So, we will have results of reliable Tests like (just an example): detection - “Avira – 97% ; AVG 96,7% CAV 98,3%;
FPs - CAV - this month has highest rate; next month it will do much better and so on…
All those figures will always fluctuate and who actually cares about 97.85% compare to 99.013%
You know what I mean - it should not be 25% 
… but other than that – it is the same (“pretty good”)
The point is - we have several competitive / good / stable Antiviruses in the market. People made their choice and my opinion - it doesn’t matter whether every current test will shovel the list of results and places they take, showing us few % of differences – it doesn’t matter at all…
Because neither Antivirus nor the best antimalware will ever win the main battle.
That is different topic, but I think it was said before here by Melih himself. “The change of paradigm – is the answer” (not the precise quote, probably, but you forgive me). And what has to be changed is the way and control of how any code is getting into our PCs, but not the strategy of a local war on a client computers.
Another AV will never change any paradigm for sure
After all that said – some made the decision with AV, some will change their mind later and some believe in having BOC as another layer … and it is possible to implement , so why not having that dream ;)?
As for more and more users moving to CAV as their AV layer, one step was already made in that past.
If we have scan on demand when installing Firewall and it is possible to have and maintain that scan on demand, having the option without installing full CAV as “the only AV solution” that would be great. Anyone who wants to test CAV’s new things coming, can choose and test that.
At the same time currently we can have our main AV chosen long ago and separate BOClean.
Cheers
OK this is a bit !ot! but it’s referenced in this preview in the German Chip site (translated)
I’ve read that it’s been confirmed over at Wilders,great advancement indeed. :-TU
Also the new heuristics are awesome 
@LA: You are right, this is about freedom of choice. And I strive for the best solution. As long as CAV is not the best AV for me, I’d rather use Avira. I however consider BOClean as the best for its particular task (realtime malware guard) and as a very good complement to Avira.
The discussion will be void when CAV beats Avira in all disciplines that matter to me.
Back on topic from me and despite a bit of googling and hunting I can find no direct,like-for-like replacement for BOClean so it’s probably best to stick with it if you’re a user now and wait and see what the options may be.Remember Comodo do listen to their users so all things are possible.
Thanks for the link!
Why when Comodo are asking what product do we want them to deal with next are they compressing all the programmes into one. Every one of us has different needs and requirements, i have an anti virus and Spyware , but I am grateful and use the firewall - I support Comodo , but I have no wish to download ALL their programmes, If I am not using one - such as the AV , why download it and have it sitting on my computer?
It’s great news indeed that Avira will offer antispyware for free. :o
As of now, the only free antispywares with resident protection I know are Windows Defender and Spyware Terminator.
Also keep in mind that BOClean never covered the same ground as those. Because of its nature as a memory scanner, it scans executables (when run), but it never protected against non executable spyware, adware, browser hijacks etc.
Also ThreatFire has been changed from combining behavioural and signatures detection, to behavioural only.
hmm, you forget some
spycatcher express
1-2-3 antispyware
and some others I can’t think of right now…
Xan
the factS (focused on the main subject: BOClean to be discontinued?):
- many non-COMODO-“”“addict”“” fellows still are in use of BOC (and don’t want to leave - it’s free and works very well!). [note: 3 " for the unknown word = I’m not an english man)
- COMODO is proposing a NEW way to be protected (wich includes many and not only this thing) for FREE.
- many may do humongous questions about this change… Of course…=any change is a new unknown adventure!
- many have read the forum’s questions and answers… (a lot of things to be solved, yet…)
- BUT, also, many doesn’t know anything about COMODO’s scientist’s work, nor even about the science itself…
So, it’s a matter of trust. ONLY THIS. (It’s easy to trust a well known BOC, “-but I have not any reference about CIS at this time”… -forgetting that BOC was COMODO’s development…)
The choice is on your own, as always. PLEASE, BE SURE THAT I’M NOT A COMODO’s EMPLOYEE - I’m just an user !.
And nobody is trying to change this. Just try to learn about what COMODO is doing. THE PROPOSAL IS THE MOST SAFE WAY TO BE BIT-PROTECTED! For now and for the future. If you doesn’t believe, do your own search.
AND this change (as it was with K7 tapes to CD disks) is still “unknown”… (think about…)
Why COMODO is doing this? For free? For everybody?
Well…
If you are here with these questions just do a search about. Learning the top isn’t easy, I know it by myself…
Please allow me to go a bit off-topic here.
From what I read and from what I felt (last time I used CAV), it is a bit slower than some also free AV products out there.
Right now, how would you rate CAV in terms of speed and efficiency when compared to Avast! or Avira?
Yesterday I tried it on a new XP install and I found it a tad slower than the others Although it did remove the “planted” virus.
And what about efficiency? Those 90.x% to 70.x% comparisons I read in some sites don’t seem to have enough credibility.
How does everybody rate CAV’s current efficiency when compared to other free products?
Is it “au pair”? Or is it still a couple of wholes down?
Because if it is nearly “au pair”, then I don’t see much point in ranting Comodo for including BOC in CAV, other than some of us already pay for a good AV suite.
But then again, our AV suite may not be as good as we think it is because otherwise we wouldn’t be asking for keeping BOC stand-alone.
I really don’t know what else to say. I just wanted to keep BOC because I don’t trust too much in McAfee’s malware engine but if CAV is nearly as good as McAfee I’d like to be able to run both in my PC, maybe keeping CAV for on-demand scan.
Just my 0.02€.
Cheers
Uninstall Mcafee, it’s the worst scanner ever… It used to be good some years ago but now, it’s nothing…
Xan
And from my experience, McAfee definitely slows your PC down.
While there’s no doubt CAV is improving it’s still very much a ‘work in progress’ and therefore not yet up to the standard of Avast or certainly Avira.Given time I’m confident that it’ll challenge the best but for now I recommend a combo of CIS (with the AV on demand only) and Avira.Once CAV has the advanced heuristics (CIMA) and BOClean technology integrated it should be strong enough to use as a primary protection.
As for McAfee in my experience it’s very buggy and resource heavy.
To be clear, it is my understanding that Avira is building AS protection into their free AV. They are not offering a free standalone resident AS like the two apps you mentioned above. And let’s not overlook avast! Home Edition, which has built in AS protection.
Like other dedicated BOClean users, I am searching for a suitable replacement for when BOC is terminated. I may already have it, in avast! and Windows Defender. WD can be set up as a full blown HIPS by joining SpyNet and configuring a few advanced options. I think WD has made steady improvement and is a viable alternative application for disenfranchised BOC users. I’m not saying it is the same type of app, but it can help fill the void created by the unfortunate shelving of the program we all enjoy and appreciate. :-TU
Yes that was my understanding, I expressed myself poorly.
And let's not overlook avast! Home Edition, which has built in AS protection.
I didn’t know that 
I didn’t know those either. But now I remember Spybot with TeaTimer…
Windows Defender protects the registry too. 
Though browser hijacks can’t harm you if you don’t surf with admin/elevated rights…
SuperAntiSpyware is free, and I use that program along with Windows Defender. I tried to install Avira onto my computer, and I would not run, so I reinstalled CIS, and I have not had any problems. I think CIS is the best anti-virus program out there. I tried AVG, McAfee, Norton, and Avast. Out of these four, Avast was the best, but CIS is better than Avast. Avast had to many false findings.
I used to use BOClean till it stopped updating, then it stopped working altogether. I wouldn’t mind if it was combined into CIS, it’s one less program I would have to see in my taskbar.