Bob, who accepted a Job to promote AVAST, is coming to our forums to bad mouth us - 2

A quote from “Bob” in the avast forums…
“I’m often asked those questions while doing the avast! Security Seminar because
a firewall is an essential part or your overall computer security requirement.
I use the firewall that comes with Windows 7.”

P.S.
I hope the people who attend his Avast security seminars don’t pay for these words of wisdom.

Friends, do not bother: it is the same person “xtrap” and “Dejavu”. We’re not in an episode of a TV series, there is no conspiracy just the pseudonym “Dejavu” was not available here.

Happy new year 2011

Indeed our mods do a great job of keeping these forums clean for the legit users who benefit from it. Our mods do so much work behind the scenes so that all our users can enjoy a free, open, uncensored forum for all legit users to benefit from, we are eternally grateful to them.

Just a short notice here: not everyone posted against Bob. I took his part and Melih did respond to me in a civil manner. So it wasn’t really Bob’s criticism the issue, but the wording of it or a misunderstanding.

And a happy new year to everyone.

hear! hear!

Here states the opinion he thinks DACS is stealing. Where the only thing DACS does is tell a scanner’s verdict about a file. Nothing more, nothing less.

* iObit tried that and we all know how well that went over. 88)
Suggesting Comodo is stealing definitions is a blatant lie. He has shown no proof as of yet. Remember DACS only reports verdicts. It does not steal av definitions nor removal strategies. [/quote] [quote="Melih post:467, topic:261163"] Come on bob3160 :) You were very quick to throw shi*....but now evidence is not forthcoming...whats up?

please come up with evidence to your following accusations:

1)You said we claim the work of other engines as ours— (please show evidence)
2)You say we don’t have the right to use the results in the way that DACS works ---- (please show evidence)

If you can’t: Please apologize so that you will not be known as a shi* thrower.

Melih
[/quote]

After Melih asks him to come forward with evidence he cops out.

As the above points out this is not just about words alone.

He’s probably an ambassador for MS too. :-\

our mods do a great job of keeping these forums clean for the legit users who benefit from it. Our mods do so much work behind the scenes so that all our users can enjoy a free, open, uncensored forum for all legit users to benefit from, we are eternally grateful to them.
I agree, if fact the way I see it. This is a very open and unbias forum. <----Let me make my point on that :)

Users here, can even post and talk about Comodo’s competition products (Like offer "Ad-Aware PRO or Bitdefender, or even give away 1 year keys promotions with link’s to Comodo’s Competition or say what they like or dislike about them.) <----How many AV Companys FORUMS would let you offer PROMO’s or givaways on their forum with :slight_smile: Let’s use the AVG forum(just an example). AVG would never allow promos like giveaway 1year keys for Ad-Aware PRO or talk about why they like XXXX better then AVG on the AVG forum
I’ll post some Proof like that on the COMODO forums here,
https://forums.Comodo.com/other-security-products/lavasoft-adaware-pro-1year-license-free-t66984.0.html
or
https://forums.Comodo.com/other-security-products/returnil-system-safe-pro-2011-t66597.0.html
or
https://forums.Comodo.com/other-security-products/toys-for-the-big-boys-emsisoft-mamutu-free-for-1-year-t65781.0.html
generally you can talk about that here

  • Welcome to the Comodo Forum
    |-+ Learn about Computer Security and Interact with Security Experts
    | |-+ Other Security Products

and some other areas too!!!

As I tried to point out to bob before, it was not so much what he was saying, but the nasty and rude manner in which he posted here which caused offense. He also implied that he had specialised knowledge of law, which is clearly not the case.

For anyone who has not followed all this I would suggest reading bob’s posts in his profile. Very far from reasonable forum behaviour.

You are forgetting he is accusing Comodo of stealing signatures by comparing DACS to the practices of IOBit. That’s smear.

For anyone who has not followed all this I would suggest reading bob's posts in his profile. Very far from reasonable forum behaviour.
His posts are surely worth checking out. Not a worthy legacy there. There is quite some polarisation going on about and against perceived fanboys.

Do you understand that Bob and I are friends? :wink:

He is not alone. This is the common impression on Wilders too. As we’re not lawyers, this is a thing that should be commonly accepted in the future. Otherwise, DACS won’t have a future, it will be questioned.

Sure. This is misunderstanding. What is being shared is the malware, not the definitions, the results, not the code.

I think that this is not our business, i.e., to proof something. A lot of people on Comodo forums are asking for proofs, but we don’t have this duty, the other software companies layers have to do that IF there is something wrong. We just post opinions.

I understand that.
Hope this become common understanding and DACS gets its future.

He’s not ambassador of avast or Microsoft. Neither do I, or you I suppose :wink:

Jay, if you excuse me, I’ll start a new thread to discuss this and other related subjects that, in my personal opinion, are in the source of the misunderstandings and the conflict between Comodo and other antivirus users. Misunderstandings and mistakes probably.

LOL…it was fairly obvious…of course…

Making accusation without proof is called shi* throwing in anyones book :slight_smile:

Bob can’t come here make false accusations and then say, its not upto him to provide the evidence. Just doesn’t wash off…

I am sure Bob is a lovely guy (i do mean it), but he came here threw out false accusations and has been very unprofessional. And you accept that they misunderstood what DACS is…So you know its a misunderstanding, you know that he falsely accused based on his misunderstanding and you should ask him to apologise based on that.

I really think he should apologise for what he has done.

Melih

This, the fact of steal, is not true. Anyone who interprets in this manner is wrong. If Bob did this, he is wrong. Comodo is not stealing in anyway the signatures, it’s not doing reversal engineering, no. What is being shared are the malware and the results. I’m not a lawyer but the results, maybe, could bring some legal issues, maybe. The files could bring privacy issues, maybe. I hope not, as I think the users and the protection will be in favor of DACS improvements. But, who knows.

When we are accused of fanboyism - I myself was accused more than once - everything is messed, there is no intellectual discussion anymore, just personal attacks and bad feelings. Everyone looses. Comodo forum looses. The user looses. Other companies image loose.

Yes, you’re right.

The only reason this thread was created is that the original thread was being snowed under by “Bob” related posts.
They could have easily banned Bob and deleted all his misinformation/snarky opinions. But instead they just started a new thread…all about “Bob the Avast ambassador” and his Avast security seminars.

I used Avast for about a year, I have nothing against Avast. I just think Comodos “default deny” approach makes a lot of sense.

That does not mean that we agree in all points :wink:

Nodoby can do that and it’s your duty to avoid such things. You have a company to run :slight_smile:

Probably you’re right. We are not acting like professionals all the time… We do mistakes. You do mistakes :slight_smile:

I accept the misunderstanding. It’s obvious, just read the posts. Seems people are talking without knowledge. I don’t like that. I passed the same situation in avast forums and passed it here in the past. I also let the feelings take the situation and lost my mind sometimes. I think I could manage this with serenity.
You have a company to run. You have a forum to run. I’m trying to keep it atmosphere. If it lost the atmosphere, I’ll drop my participation. I will do this in any forum I participate.

It’s up to him.

Happy New Year for all of us!

So since you agree that the misunderstanding has caused Bob to falsely accuse us, don’t you think (asking your opinion) he should apologise?

Melih

I can’t believe this thread is still going.

This is my first post in these forums at Comodo. By what I read thus far I realized that when one disagrees with a mod, an employee of Comodo including its CEO I’ve got the impression that such critic must be vilified, and destroyed. Are Comodo forums supposed to be a place where one could come to discuss subjects related to computer security. I said discuss because the word means an exchange of views where knowledge would shine and eventually correction and progress would be made.

If dissenting opinions are always crushed and suppressed; hence, there can only be a monologue, not of course within the context of two persons but a strict command to adhere to Comodo’s official way to behave and to think or else. I’m sorry to be off topic, however, that’s my first impression about the forums.

I’m sorry to be !ot!.