Hi LaserWraith. To me your various post just show someone who is a little firery, a little warped in your sense of humour, straight to the point, individual, likes fun (jokes) and someone that does not take life to seriously. If this sounds like you, I think your writing skills are ok. We can all be taken wrong from time to time (me included) and we all can probably word things better sometimes, but we all do have an individual way of wording what we are trying to say. Kind regards to you.
I’m trying to think of a humorously warped reply, but my writing skills are refusing to cooperate. All I’m going to say is that I’m sure the mods are glad there aren’t too many people like me.
Everything has a positive maybe some of your contributions helps keep the Mods brain active, that can only be a good thing (CNY) .
I’ve only had one topic so far and that’s gone well.
Elitism appears to be a real problem now in computing forums generally, whether that be on the subject of business or pleasure. There are a lot of people who will give abuse to someone for not being a computer expert, ironically these are always people who spend too long on the internet and waste their lives on forums. There are some who will help, of course.
Other than punishing those who post unhelpful replies or baiting remarks, there’s nothing else that can be done. By punish, I do mean punish. Mods are always lenient to repeat offenders, a good mod will beat the subconscious desire to let someone just have a ‘warning’ (or a ‘nothing’) because it’s just who they are and what they do. People like that should be banned, not accepted.
If they don’t, the product is affected. For example: I used to use Look ‘n’ Stop, but discovered it stops multiplayer online games working at all. I go on the forum to ask for advice. Long story short, I was eventually linked to a 100-post thread of lingo and gibberish of someone testing different things in real-time to get games to work. That was it.
Even after I explained several times I didn’t understand that, all other posts were “people [like you] are just lazy” and “let me know what you need help with”, no matter how many times I explained I was not an expert and didn’t understand it, and just needed step-by-step instructions. They were told to stick it, another person or two came in also explaining on my/our behalf how it wasn’t understandable, and it was the same responses “lazy” and “let us know if you need help and we’ll help”. Madness.
Now I use Comodo.
As for community, any forum with debate has a tense and rather unpleasent ‘community’. I’ve seen it a lot back when I was always on forums. There was even a debate forum, about religion and politics usually of course, on a rock band forum I was on. As with other sites with debates, people would have essays of petty arguments with each other, then [female dog] about them ‘behind their back’, and that would continue throughout the entire site until one of them left the forum, if ever. Groups are formed, and it’s [female dog, female dog, female dog].
The choice is up to the webmaster and administrator(s) on whether they allow discussion on off-topic things, or even things that don’t really concern us or where a debate would achieve nothing.
Other than that, my other suggestion is those who have been “distressed” or “upset” by this should leave the forum anyway, at least only to come back for technical problems or questions. The only time you should ever be distressed on an internet forum is if someone’s posted an offensive picture or if someone knows your personal info…without looking on Facebook or Google.
I don’t approve of spending most of a day, most days, on internet forums. Sorry if that offends, but can you argue? For those of, say, an age of under-21, they are incredibly attached, everything’s deadly serious. If a guy says “I’m going to kill you”, they’ll have sleepless nights waiting for Cakeisalie69 to stab them.
For those over-21, it can eat away. It’s easy to say “there’s something better you can do”, but take it from me, it saves you a heck of a lot of aggro and writing large posts that no-one cares about, like this one. The amount of days wasted arguing with know-it-alls or just those with a different view. While there can be ‘epic’ moments that everyone quotes in their signatures, I gained nothing from those arguments, just one laugh.
It was understandable a few years back for social outcasts or the bullied to come to forums, where they could have friends. But now we have Facebook, so you can just add everyone from your town and make real friends. >_>
P.S. As I mentioned, I’ve only made one thread and posted in there, so I don’t know how the mods are here. I’ve yet to see a forum where I haven’t witnessed mods going mad with imaginary ‘power’ and either:
A) fighting each other or banning anyone they didn’t like with multiple made-up ‘spam’ offenses. (If a mod wants to punish someone, they’ll just mark a post as ‘spam’ and no-one can argue)
or
B) calling it in and just doing the odd moderation, while letting the guy who says 14 year olds are sex objects and that all “Serbs must be killed” go unpunished for years.
Excuse me but why “distressed” or “upset” should leave the forum? Here on Comodo forum there are place for technical advices and there is a place for some general discussion. And here are people from all over the world , so everybody could have another opinion on concrete subject.
And most of all - not You or not me is here to decide who should leave the forum and who should not.
All the best and take care.
I could not agree with you more on this point.
The whole foundation of democracy is based on freedom of expression and speech.
Without this liberty the human race would never progress.
Just look at the scientific breakthroughs that man has experienced in his history.
If these theories were oppressed in any way we would not get anywhere.
Well… insulting people on forums is fun, as I see you found out. ;D
(Ok, maybe you were trying or maybe you weren’t, but I still got a feeling that you’re putting down regular forum users.)
Anyway, if not for this forum, I’d still be one of those useless bullied non-elites you talked about. At least I learned something (more like a lot) here, and have been able to use that knowledge to help others, remotely & personally (but I’m not claiming to be great at security and computers like many on this forum, just enough to solve most of the simple problems that regular users couldn’t).
find this post a bit strange.
It seems to be a long ranting narrative on basic human behaviour.
You mention people wasting their time on forums and yet you have yourself wasted a lot of time writing this long and tedious post and for what purpose.?
I would strongly suggest the best solution for you would to simply not enter the forum or is that too easy.?
Regards.
If anyone is feeling such emotion, they are too attached and leaving will help them see how insignificant their worry is.
…Sorry, but what on Earth does this have to do with internet forums and taking the internet too seriously? O_o
Are you saying banning someone with an ego problem from a forum could stop the cure for cancer or an advance in planet terraforming technology?
Poor attempt at putting yourself above another with an analysis which was not thought through.
I posted for the OP, and therefore for any others ‘affected’ by an internet forum. If he chooses not to care about this reply, then my post would still be significant in that I attempted to provide help, and there is no indication on if it has or will in future help another.
HI. First up thanks for the reply. I have to say I am sorry if I misinterpret anything in this quote, I just find it a bit hard to decipher. During my time reading this quote I was getting mixed feelings as to what this quote was saying. I agree elitism can be a problem, but I don’t agree that people spending a lot of time on a forum is wasting their lives. If someone gets pleasure from using a forum, I see no time waste from that. It just maybe their hobby just like sitting down doing model building not everyones choice, but if thats anyones choice for pleasure then time isn’t wasted. Mods are human like the rest of us and make mistakes, and in my opinion the Mods here mostly do their best to solve problems instead of banning. Solving some forum problems is exactly what I was trying to acheive from opening this Topic. I was in no way saying anyone here was a bad person, I was just saying some recent choices made were not that pleasant (From me included). I don’t think banning is the best way to go in most cases until a hard fought resolution has been tried first. As far as if something upsets or distresses me I should leave the forum, I don’t think so I love Comodo and are willing to help make Comodos forum a pleasant place to learn, help, and interact with other users. My thoughts on off topic sections. I think they are good if used well, used for a laugh or even for a cry as I did the other day. I totally appreciated the off topic section and the replies I received being available to help with some sadness in my life. I do approve of someone spending their days and nights on forums if thats what they want as long as they are doing it respectfully (everyones choice of how they spend their life is their choice, life is short). I have a friend with only one arm and only one leg, and if the computer makes his life more comfortable that is a good thing. I do think the forum did temporay run off the rails a bit, and I think we have all done a great job to put it back on. Thanks and kind regards.
That is very true: if it makes someone genuinely happy (and isn’t illegal or immoral), then that’s only good. However, if it eats into life than it is a waste of time, a lot of lifetime if it’s someone who’s 13-25 years old (which he vast majority of forum users are). It’s like with Facebook - a lot of people go on that instead of doing something productive. I don’t mean ‘productive’ as in washing the dishes, I mean something like doing that essay earlier, for example.
Also, it’s not a good thing if it ends up becoming somewhat of another life or even an addiction. An example here is: people who play video games and HAVE to collect everything and get 100%. I think it’s accurate to say that there are some out there that have gone through all that time and effort to get 100%, and it wasn’t fun, it was frustrating. But they did it, because they just had to. Or because of that feeling of achievement of getting 100%. Y’know, rather than going and playing another game or reading a book or something…
With forums, it can start off fun or nice, but they won’t see themselves spending too much time on the forums and getting distressed, upset, angered and annoyed. If they’re feeling these things, it’s likely they have become too attached and it’s certainly not for fun if it makes them feel these emotions.
Off-topic sections are fine, it’s just debate forums, or forums and topics that have arguments in them which were avoidable, that I find pointless and which have a terrible effect.
It’s important to think long-term too. There are those who will find solace in internet forums, but what if it’s only short-term happiness? What if a person is spending his/her time on forums, and 40 years later they’re even more alone? Instead, they could’ve been improving their life, whether it be education, work or falling in love (real love, not the type where they started going out in school and had 2 kids before splitting up at 18, or got engaged after going out for a month).
I actually see ozzyoscy’s point. I’m on the computer a lot more during the Winter (which is now where I live) but come Spring I will be outside every single day. Hunting, fishing, working on vehicles, building something, planting etc. There are a million things to do. I just don’t understand sitting in front of a TV or PC on a beautiful day. I may go a week without watching an hour of TV during Summer, seriously. Maybe it’s different in the Southern US but that’s just how most of us are down here. Anyway, to each his own but kids (and adults) today are just too attached to technology & that can’t be healthy, it’s just a fact.
Please, Explain what this ‘real love’ is? Don’t whip out the oxford dictionary either…
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I must say it’s kind of harsh that you said that… ?
What ever your definition will be, its for you … and you only … Reason i say that is because I’ve so much search for such of word in books, poetry, words, magazines, dictionaries. They all say different, so i figured… Love is undefinable, Why? because its not a universal term, it’s nothing similar that you and i may have. its different for me, its different you… I mean yeah you may put a categorical phrase to define the word love but i must say that is simple, but i dont live ‘simple’
Whats wrong with getting engaged after going out for a month? My grandmother and grandfather only knew each other for a whole 2 months before getting engaged… This is back in later 50’s… their still together… their old farts and hags together they live
I do have some other things that i could say but i must hold my fingers before i start typing a book on these forums
It’s just all about who you are, and why you have registered… and your background… thats all xD
Kind Regards
Jacob
Each has reason in opinion, but it is not necessary for it long statement so. It is possible to express each meaning into several opinions/sentences and don’t have to write elaboration. ;D
And of course nobody should spend to much time in front of the computer or tv or whatever.
But in my opinion it is a normal think. Most of people have families, going to work, playing some sports, jogging, doing a lot of thinks etc.
Computer is just a electronic equipment - not a real life. But on the other side - is needed very often.
Take care everybody.
Well on internet forums about touchy subjects like internet attachment, elaboration is important. If I only wrote half of what I write, there’ll be a load of people replying with segments of my post, and arguing against them with analysis, then I’d have to reply with elaboration anyway, and that just gives us pages of long arguments that no-one really reads.
Normally I only write a paragraph at most and avoid quoting everybody (unless I’m asking a technical question or have a problem with my computer), but I’m being generous. Plus, I spend only a few minutes on a forum a day (if I even visit a forum), so I can afford to take a little longer writing a little more detail sometimes.
Psh, I wouldn’t get a dictionary to define love. Like you say, it’s undefinable (and I’m not saying that just 'cause you said it). That’s why I only said what love ISN’T. Well, maybe it is definable. People get infatuated and call it love. People get their first crush and have no doubt it’s love, but it turns out it’s not.
Perhaps you love someone when s/he is perfect for you and there is no-one better to be with, and even with hindsight that is still the case.
What’s wrong with getting engaged (and popping out babies) after a month? Well in your example, that worked. However, it still would’ve worked if they waited several years before getting engaged, surely?
There are a lot of kids, kids in their early 20s and under (oh, we are kids), who are getting engaged/married/pregnant after only weeks or months, and if it doesn’t work out that’s wasted the whole experience and/or a marriage and/or a child’s parenting. Worse is the emotional impact. It would have much less impact if a couple break up as just boyfriend/girlfriend, on their emotions and most definitely their families’ wallets.
Especially considering the importance of having children and that marriage should be done only once, until one of you dies, and may or may not involve the merging of your souls (depending what you believe. Well no, depending what turns out to be true!).
Even worse, like I said, a lot of these people getting pregnant are immature and kids. Chavs are having tonnnes of babies, and in the future we’re going to have a lot of people who can’t read and write, struggle with behaviour and have little opportunity in life. It can be argued that this is already the case.
When I was a child of, say, 9 years old, I was writing nearly to the standard I am now and could read anything English. But I haven’t encountered any similarly-aged children who aren’t Ritin lyk Ths (“writing like this”) and can spell the word ‘work’ (apparently it’s ‘werk’), let alone find any when they’re older (zing!). Actually, the same can be accurately said for a lot who are 18-and-over.
Real love is more than a feeling…those can quickly pass. I’m sure married people face hard times, and stop “feeling” love. If love was just a feeling…this world would be even more full with broken hearts. Love is also something like a “duty”. Act as if you love even if you don’t feel like it.
Of course, many people just wimp out and divorce with things get a bit tough.
Maybe I am one of the lucky ones. Once upon a time I started dating a girl in a High School uniform, 28 years later I am still with her. It is not for me to say whether this is the meaning of love or not, but imo it has something to do with it. Love can come in many variations and forms. I say I love lots of thing in life , but all in a different way (Life included). Kind regards.
Ah Now we are all philosophy majors aye?
Yeah who needs college
Apparently if you want to get a job at mcdonalds you have to have at least be in college or been through college …