What is happening to our Forum?

On the Internet, we are all bits and emoticons. :slight_smile: So, if we are angry and call each other names, then it’s Emoticon discrimination, which is a bad thing. No one should discriminate against the emoticon. :slight_smile: I know I say this in a weird way, but there is more truth to what I say. Basically — we are all the same on the Internet and we all have emotions, but it is very difficult to express our emotions. Words can only go so far and some people are not native speakers, thus it is more difficult for them to express their feelings, or it may seem as if some people come off too strongly than intended. Picture representations like emoticons help, but are not perfect. I agree that we should not be angry, but sometimes it’s hard, because we all read things differently and if you’ve had a bad day, then you may read something more harshly than intended, so it’s ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  the Internet. It can be easier in real-life, because you have all the other non-verbal language to pick up information on. Words are strictly verbal language and we as humans need the non-verbal aspects of communication, so hopefully the emoticon helps. :slight_smile:

my deep thought for the day.

I experience that too often. Sometimes I want what I said to be taken lightheartedly, but it isn’t. So I get an angry reply, and then I make an angry reply, etc…

I guess I’m just not good enough at writing what I mean.

That’s quite alright; I’m not good at talking period both on these forums and in real life
I have Mild to Heavy hesitation each time i try to talk in real person; and on these forums my fingers cant’ move as quickly as my brain process’s :smiley: Sucks to be me…

That’s very similar to me. I’m somewhat shy in real life. I guess knowing that no one knows who you really are makes you (too) bold.

I agree.
But however, every journey starts with it’s first step.

…the bane of the written word. Inflection often doesn’t translate well. If you’re talking face-to-face, people can decipher your intent much more successfully through tone, body language, etc., not to mention you being right there to clear up any misunderstandings before things get out of hand. Unfortunately, most of that gets lost with just text in a forum post or other written medium. It becomes harder to accurately judge the levity of a comment, whether or not a remark is meant as an honest statement or a sarcastic quip. And replies take a while to get back to you, so any misinterpretations get plenty of time to fester in your head and grow out of proportion, instead of being able to be resolved before things escalate.

Exactly. Even though some interesting thoughts & statements have come from the topic (or multiple topics about the same subject) I think the whole ā€œthe Comodo forum sky is fallingā€ panic is a bit overblown. Just my opinion. 8)

Thats true. Very true.
That’s why I in real life always get into face-to-face to a person when sensitive and/or difficult things have to be said and investigated even if it’s hard to do. I never use any other form of communication for that even if that means that I have to travel a long way. It’s fair play and can clear away many misunderstandings and misinterpretations.

Unfortunately we can’t do this in another way, therefore we have to be polite and show respect more than ever when we aren’t face-to-face. And also be keen as we always should be, or at least try to be.
It isn’t, as I said before, always easy. We might have to take a deep breath and count very very slowly to ten or more before we say something stupid or hurt someone. Or as I always say: It doesn’t hurt to take a good sleep and calm down before we are going to say or do something sometimes.

I would like to thank all members for taking the time to read, reply and think about this Topic. The better we can make the Forum for everybody will result in more Comodo users, which is great for everyone. Thanks again to you all and Kind regards to you all.
P.s To Jake and LaserWraith I would have never guessed shyness or hesitation from either of you. Have a fun day everyone.

[b]This is a first. Hopefully, everyone reads it.

I have seen so many (myself included) having made impolite replies and/or requests (and yes, i find it shameful on my behalf, having been well-provided and educated for that matter).

While it is true that it is difficult – perhaps extremely so – to provide an answer without the danger of misinterpretation, the possibilities of misinterpretation and that is through choice words. It is, however, very difficult on behalf of the writer to perform this as we all should now know. I did find that the study of humanities and literature, poetry most especially, helps a lot in this sense.

Ambiguity begins with the author and ends with the reader. Sometimes it’s the fault of the author, sometimes the reader, oftentimes both. In any case, it’s only a matter of controlling emotions. As Taha Muhammad Ali in his poem entitled revenge would say, ā€œā€¦paying him no attention
in itself was a kind of revenge.ā€

Yes, I agree. Indeed they are not perfect. While emoticons should help, it really doesn’t show anything concrete and makes it quite difficult to determine the honesty behind them (well, in my case that is). If I may make a suggestion, perhaps stating, by the end of the statements preferably, that you are merely kidding should prevent (assuming the reader would finish reading) such circumstances.

Yes, and journey’s are never short, so we may as well start walking now.

P.S.
I had posted Taha Muhammad Ali’s poem below for everyone’s enjoyment and contemplation.

REVENGE
At times … I wish
I could meet in a duel
the man who killed my father
and razed our home,
expelling me
into a narrow country.
And if he killed me,
I’d rest at last
and if I were ready -
I would take my revenge!

But if it came to light,
when my rival appeared,
that he had a mother
waiting for him,
or a father who’d put
his right hand over
the heart’s place in his chest
whenever his son was late
even by just a quarter-hour
for a meeting they’d set -
then I would not kill him,
even if I could.

Likewise … I
would not ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  him
if it were soon made clear
that he had a brother or sisters
who loved him and constantly longed to see him.
Or if he had a wife to greet him
and children who
couldn’t bear his absence
and who his presents thrilled.

Or if he had
friends or companions,
neighbors he knew
or allies from prison
or a hospital room,
or classmates from his school…
asking about him
and sending him regards.

But if he turned
out to be on his own -
cut off like a branch from a tree -
without mother or father,
with neither a brother nor sister,
wifeless, without a child,
and without kin or neighbors or friends,
colleagues or companions,
then I’d add not a thing to his pain
within that aloneness -
nor the torment of death,
and not the sorrow of passing away.
Instead I’d be content
to ignore him when I passed him by
on the street - as I
convinced myself
that paying him no attention
in itself was a kind of revenge.

~ Taha Muhammad Ali ~

Reference: Supriyanna, Initials. (2010, August 12). Revenge by taha muhammad ali. Retrieved from revenge :: taha muhammad ali – poetry

It seems that things on Comodo forum are not going very good. Well , I am probably the last person here to say that , but still : Everybody should think about it : Is Comodo for people or people are for Comodo … :frowning:

Comodo is there for it’s users but people like Jake, EricJH, Ewen and other experienced people are there for comodo by helping people that have problem that are related to Comodo’s products and discussing how to improve things regards comodo’s products.

Lets not forget that a forums has all kind of people. So you have to select which people fits you best :slight_smile:

I hope I understood what you are saying with ā€œIs Comodo for people or people are for Comodo ā€¦ā€. Otherwise correct me.

Regards,
Valentin N

The forum is in a mess because when controversial threads are open they are are allowed to continue and this creates a tense atmosphere.

The thread below is an example.
http://forums.Comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/cis-could-join-mrg-flash-tests-2011-t68228.0.html

Melih had previously stated that Comodo would not work with MRG again and MRG had accepted to stop testing Comodo until a compromise is reached, so what is the point of this thread? If a thread will not produce anything productive, it should be locked.

Thanks

Hi ComoJust. The point of this thread. I opened this Topic in the hope that we will give some thought before we hit the post button. To try to make it a comfortable, friendly, educational, helpful, welcoming, polite and respectful to others type of Forum the way it was when I joined. If it just made a handful of us the members think before we hit the post button and maybe change the wording even just a little, then I think this thread was productive. A more welcome Forum results in more Comodo users, everyones a winner then. I not sure what this thread has done for others, but it has made me think a little harder before posting. Kind regards.

Hello captainsticks ,

Sorry for expressing myself wrongly, I totally understand the purpose of your thread and I’m in full agreemnt with you.

The useless thread which I was referring to is this one.(Comodo and MRG)
http://forums.Comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/cis-could-join-mrg-flash-tests-2011-t68228.0.html

I was saying that it is these threads that cause unnecessary tensions in the forum.(not the thread that you have opened)

Thanks

A bit like what my mother told me sometimes it is better to bite your tongue than say what you think :slight_smile:

Dennis

To ComoJust. My apologies for the misunderstanding. I thought you was saying both threads were a waste of time. No harm done and thanks for the clarification. I don’t think the way you expressed it was wrong. Now I have reread it could have been taking either way, and I should have checked first. Kind regards to you.

And tie my two typing fingers together.

That is better than me one finger typing :slight_smile:

The atmosphere gets even more tense when mods lock any thread which shows signs of strong debate. Users in the middle or early parts of a debate could get frustrated when it is locked… they haven’t gone far enough to state their views and see the futileness in continuing.