Kaspersky 2009 and Comodo firewall (Kaspersky/Comodo compatability)

So it seems there are an endless amount of posts in these forums about compatibility issues between Kaspersky and Comodo, and many of them seem to be conflicting.

I’d possibly be interested in trying Kaspersky anti virus, but do not want it to have any negative effects on my beloved Comodo firewall (latest version). I also do not want to disable any Comodo features, and do not want to fail any leak tests or lessen my security because of Kaspersky. I could easily do without some of Kaspersky’s features which may cause problems between the two.

Well, what is official? Can you successfully run Kaspersky AV and Comodo firewall together without any problems? Without reducing Comodo’s strength and security? What exactly causes the problems between the two?

Also, Kaspersky 2009 is out pretty soon, are there any indications that they have done things to improve compatibility?

I’ve read a ton of great reviews on Kaspersky AV, and I’ve always been interested in trying it. Being a Russian company also entices me as I am of Russian descent and like to stick with the “comrades”.

I do apologize for creating yet another thread on this issue, but perhaps some compatibility issues have been improved in Kaspersky’s latest software.

Thank you.

I have tried KAV several times and never care to again. If you have Comodo installed then KAV tells you to uninstall Comodo. KAV slows your pc down like mad. Boot up times are alot longer and browsing is slower. If you want a good paid av the go with Avira which scores better then KAV all day long.

Is it just as bad as Norton, with the slowdown?

I tried Avira and just didn’t like it. Don’t know what it is about it, but I didn’t care much for it.

One thing was pretty annoying, the ■■■■ icon wouldn’t ever show up in my taskbar and I could never tell if it was running or not.

… I think I also found the software confusing. I’m certainly not an idiot when it comes to computers, and I would even go as far as saying I’m beyond a “regular user” … whatever that term mean, but I just couldn’t figure out the ■■■■ software. I couldn’t even figure out how to do a scan or schedule a scan.

No icon problems with version 8.

LirvA, here is modification needs to be done according to KIS/KAV work properly with CFP3:
In pic2 you can see what should not be monitored to avoid KIS/KAV local proxy interface, in pic1 is installation procedure window with unneeded components, some of it is disabled because conflicting with D+ and FW part of CFP and some are unneeded and related with inability to process/monitoring ports we unchecked in pic2 in post settings, because part with web-AV lacks in our configuration, it needs to be strengthen file-memory AV (see pic3)

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I have chose to mail related ports stays monitored with KIS/KAV because it is really easy to set rule for mail traffic in CFP, only thing you should check is your mail server(s) and put it inside KIS/KAV rule with mail ports (usually SMTP 25 and POP3 110 or secure SMTP SSL 465 and POP3 SSL 995).
Every other mail servers should be blocked.
For kaspersky update you’ll need HTTP rule also on port 80 and that is it.

Kaspersky 2009 is awesome ! :slight_smile: They created a new antivirus engine, 50 % faster scanning, lighter on resourses ( it uses about 22 mb RAM at this moment), whitelisting approach, scanning for vulnerabilities, privacy cleaner, virtual keyboard and lots of other stuff. I ike it. I always liked Kaspersky and this version is the best so far :slight_smile:

(:CLP)

Thats good information salmonela, thanks for posting those screenshots.

I do have some further questions.

  1. taking these steps will allow them (Comodo and Kaspersky) to run in perfect harmony with no problems?

  2. taking these steps prevents web browsing traffic from going through Kaspersky web proxy service, and slowing down web browsing?

  3. What does KIS offer that KAV doesn’t have?

Thank you.

I’ll probably give it a try, here in a few days when I have some time. I may end up needing a bit of further assistance if you are available, … possibly.

If a mod wouldn’t mind, I may need this thread open for a while, I’ll definitely post when everything has been resolved for me. Thank you.

… oh well I guess I can just lock it myself when It’s resolved huh? These are good forums.

Where can you download KAV 09 from?

It’s in beta stage for the moment. Visit some ‘dark sites’ and you will find it directly.

3. What does KIS offer that KAV doesn't have?
KIS is the internet security : antispam, firewall, etc included . KAV is the normal antivirus.

Xan

I found the links

KIS
http://dnl-eu10.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/TR/KIS/kis8.0.0.357en.exe

KAV
http://dnl-eu10.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/TR/KAV/kav8.0.0.357en.exe

If you want keys, pm me. I just can’t post them here (against forum policy).

Xan

KAV 7 and Comodo 2 and 3 did not Co-Exist peacefully

If I recall, 8.0 also known as 2009 of KAV is combatible with all versions of Comodo. I am running Comodo Firewall, Kaspersky Anitivirus 2009, and SUPERantispyware and I see no problems with combatibility.

regarding the need to uninstall Comodo firewall pro before installing Kaspersky, do you also need to uninstall Comodo memory firewall?

What about Back Orifice Clean, does that need to be uninstalled?

Also, I have a really quite simple question regarding Kaspersky.

Does it feature the explorer shell extension scanner? This is important for an AV. It’s great to be able to quickly manually scan a single file or folder.

I’m sure Kaspersky does, I just want to know for sure.

“If I recall, 8.0 also known as 2009 of KAV is combatible with all versions of Comodo. I am running Comodo Firewall, Kaspersky Anitivirus 2009, and SUPERantispyware and I see no problems with combatibility.”

BlueEyedFox, could you possibly provide links regarding this issue? Has Kaspersky done something to improve compatibility?

Edit - Fox, I just found your thread on their forums, so no need to post a link. Thank you.

http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=69909

Well I am not installing a BETA virus scan. Beware.

Yea, I agree with you there. I’m actually considering giving their version 7 a try, if it can be made to be compatible with CFP. I think they have a stable release of 8 coming out soon. Their latest build is a “technical release”, which is I guess just past beta stages.

Kaspersky 2009 incompatibility list:

"Concerning to Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2009

If you are installing the File Anti-Virus component, then Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2009 detects and allows automatically deleting the following products:

* Agnitum Outpost Antivirus Pro 6
* Agnitum Outpost Antivirus Pro 6 x64
* Agnitum Outpost Security Suite Pro 6.0
* AhnLab SpyZero 2007
* ALWIL Software Avast 4.0
* Ashampoo AntiVirus
* Ashampoo AntiVirus 1.6
* Authentium Command AV 4.90.x / 4.92.x
* Authentium Command AV 4.94.9
* Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic 7
* Bit Defender Professional Edition 7.2 (Fr)
* Bit Defender Standard Edition 7.2 (Fr)
* BitDefender 8 Professional (Fr)
* BitDefender 8 Professional Plus
* BitDefender 8 Standard
* BitDefender 8 Standard (Fr)
* BitDefender 9 Professional Plus
* BitDefender 9 Standard
* BitDefender Antivirus 2008
* BitDefender AntiVirus Plus 10.247
* BitDefender Internet Security 2008
* BitDefender Total Security 2008
* CA AntiVirus 2008
* CA eTrust Anti-Virus 7.1.0194
* CA eTrust AntiVirus 7
* CA eTrust AntiVirus 7.1
* CA eTrust AntiVirus 7.1.0192
* CA eTrust AntiVirus 7.1.194
* CA eTrust InoculateIT 6.0
* CA eTrust Pestpatrol 5.0
* CA eTrust Suite Personal 2008
* CA eTrustITM 8.1
* CA eTrustITM 8.1
* CA eTrustITM Agent 8.0.403
* CA Licensing 1.57.1
* CA PC Security Suite 6.0
* CA PC Security Suite 6.0
* ClamWin Free Antivirus
* Comodo BOClean 4.25
* Dr.Web AntiVirus 4.33
* Dr.Web AntiVirus for Windows Servers 4.33
* DrWeb CommuniGate Plugin 4.33
* DrWeb for Windows 4.30
* eScan Internet Security Suite 9.0 for Windows
* ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.642 German
* ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.650
* ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.650 Rus
* ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.650 x64
* ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.650 x64 German
* ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.650 x64 Rus
* Eset NOD32 for Windows 2.5
* Eset NOD32 for Windows 2.x
* eTrust EZ Antivirus 2005-2008
* eTrust EZ Antivirus 6.1
* eTrust Personal Firewall 5.5.114
* F-PROT Antivirus for Windows 6
* F-Prot for Windows 3.14
* F-Secure Anti-Virus 5-6
* F-Secure Anti-Virus 7.02
* F-Secure AntiVirus 2006
* G DATA AntiVirusKit 2005
* G DATA InternetSecurity 2008
* Grisoft AVG 7.5
* K7AntiVirus 7.0
* K7TotalSecurity 9.5
* Lightspeed Systems Security Agent 6.0
* Lightspeed Systems Security Agent 6.2.0
* McAfee Anti-Spyware Enterprise Module
* McAfee AntiSpyware Enterprise 8.5
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Dutch
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 French
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 German
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Italian
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Korean
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Polish
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Portuguese
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Simplified Chinese
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Spanish
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Swedish
* McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1 Traditional Chinese
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.0
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.0 German
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.1
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.1 French
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.1 German
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0 German
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0 Spanish
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0i French
* McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.5.0i
* McAfee VirusScan Home Edition
* Nod 32 ESET Smart Security
* Nod 32 ESET Smart Security German
* Nod 32 ESET Smart Security Rus
* Nod 32 ESET Smart Security x64
* Nod 32 ESET Smart Security x64 Ger
* Nod 32 ESET Smart Security x64 Rus
* Norman Virus Control 5.8
* Norman Virus Control 5.9
* Norton AntiVirus Corporate Edition 7.0
* Norton AntiVirus Corporate Edition 7.5
* Norton AntiVirus Corporate Edition 7.6.0.0000
* Panda Antivirus 2008 3.01.00
* Panda Client Shield 4.01.10
* Panda Platinum Internet Security
* Panda WebAdmin AntiVirus
* Sophos Anti-Virus version 4.6.10
* Sophos Antivirus 4.x
* Sophos Antivirus 6.x/5.x
* Sophos AutoUpdate 2.1.1
* Spyware Doctor 5.5. for Windows
* StarForce SafenSec
* Steganos Internet Anonym Pro 7
* Sunbelt Personal Firewall 4.5
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.0.1000
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.0.2000.2
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.0.359
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.0.6.600
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.394
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.4.4000
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.5.5000
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.5000.5
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.5000.5 for x64
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.6.6000
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.6.6000 for x64
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.7.7000
* Symantec AntiVirus 10.2.0.276
* Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 8
* Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9.0.0
* Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9.0.4
* Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9.0.6
* Symantec Client Firewall 8.7.4.79 & Symantec AntiVirus 10.1.4.4000
* Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0.780.1008
* Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0.901.2006
* Symantec Norton AntiVirus 2004 Professional
* Symantec Norton AntiVirus 2005
* Symantec Norton Internet Security 2005/2006 (8.0.0.64)
* Symantec Norton Internet Security 2007
* TEGAM International ViGUARD
* Tiny Firewall Pro 6.0
* Trend Micro Anti-Spyware 3.0/3.5
* Trend Micro OfficeScan Client 7.0 - 8.0
* Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2005
* Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2006 (14)
* Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2007
* Trend Micro ServerProtect 5.58
* Trust EZ Firewall 5.1.039
* Vet Anti-Virus 10.65
* ViRobot Desktop 5.0
* VirusBlokAda AntiVirus 3.11
* Windows Live OneCare 2.0.2500.14
* Zone Labs IMsecure 1.5.0.39

If you are installing the File Anti-Virus component, then Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2009 detects and asks to delete the following products manually:

* AhnLab SpyZero 2006
* AhnLab V3 VirusBlock 2006
* AhnLab V3 VirusBlock Internet Security 2007 7.0.0.274
* AhnLab V3 VirusBlock Internet Security 2007 Platinum
* Aluria Security Center
* America Online Antivirus (Powered by McAfee)
* AntiVir Windows Workstation 7.06.00.507
* AVG 8
* AVG 8.0
* AVG Anti-Virus 6
* Avira AntiVir Personal – Free Antivirus
* Avira Premium Security Suite 2006
* BitDefender Free Edition
* BitDefender Internet Security
* BullGuard
* BullGuard AntiVirus
* Bullguard Internet Security 8.0
* CA eTrust PestPatrol Anti-Spyware
* CA eTrust PestPatrol Anti-Spyware Corporate Edition
* ClamWin Antivirus
* COMODO AntiVirus 1.1
* COMODO Firewall Pro 1.0 - 3.x
* DrWeb Antivirus for Windows 4.30
* EarthLink Protection Control Center
* ESET Smart Security 3.0
* F-Prot Antivirus 6
* F-Secure AntiVirus 2008
* G DATA AntiVirus 1
* G DATA AntiVirus Kit 2007
* G DATA InternetSecurity 17
* G DATA Software AntiVirenKit 2006
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0 for Windows Servers Enterprise Edition
* Kingsoft AntiSpyware 2006 +
* Kingsoft Internet Security 2006 +
* Kingsoft Internet Security 2007
* McAfee Managed VirusScan
* McAfee SpamKiller
* McAfee VirusScan
* McAfee VirusScan Core
* McAfee VirusScan Online
* McAfee VirusScan Professional Bonus Pack
* Microsoft Windows OneCare Live AntiSpyware and AntiVirus
* Norton AntiVirus 2001
* Norton AntiVirus 2002
* Norton AntiVirus 2002 Professional Edition
* Norton AntiVirus 2003 Professional Edition
* Norton AntiVirus 2004
* Norton AntiVirus 2007
* Norton Confidential 1.0.0
* Norton Confidential 1.5.1.8
* Norton Internet Security 2005
* Norton Internet Security 2008
* Norton Internet Security 8.0.0.64
* Norton Internet Security Professional 2004
* Panda AntiVirus 2004
* Panda AntiVirus 2006-2008
* PC Tools AntiVirus
* PC Tools AntiVirus 3.6
* PC Tools Internet Security 2008
* PC Tools Spyware Doctor 5.1
* PC Tools ThreatFire 3.0
* PC-cillin AntiVirus 2002
* PC-cillin AntiVirus 2003
* RAV AntiVirus
* Rising AntiVirus
* Sophos Anti-Virus 7.3
* Spybot - Search & Destroy
* StarForce SafenSec Pro
* Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall 4.3
* Symantec Norton 360 ver. 1.0.0.184
* Symantec Norton AntiVirus 2008
* Trend Micro Anti-Spyware for SMB / Enterpise 3.x
* Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2008
* Trend Micro Security Server for SMB 3.5
* Virus Dr.(v10)
* Virus Killer
* Virus Security v9
* ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware
* ZoneAlarm Anti-Virus
* ZoneAlarm Firewall
* ZoneAlarm Firewall Pro
* ZoneAlarm Security Suite
* ZoneAlarm Wireless Security
* ZoneAlarm with Antivirus

If you are installing one of the components Mail Anti-Virus, Web-Anti-Virus, in this case Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2009 detects and allows deleting the following product automatically:

* Kerio WinRoute Firewall 6.0 

During installation of any component, the following products are always detected and automatically deleted:

* Kaspersky Anti-Hacker 1.0-1.5
* Kaspersky Anti-Hacker 1.7-1.9
* Kaspersky Anti-Spam Personal 1.0
* Kaspersky Anti-Spam Personal 1.1-1.2
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus 4.x
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus 5.0 for Windows File Servers
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Workstation 5.0 (5.0.145 - 5.0.225)
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Workstations 5.0 (5.0.527 - 5.0.712)
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus Lite 4.5
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal 5.0
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal Pro 5.0 (5.0.16 - 5.0.20)
* Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal Pro 5.0 (5.0.372 - 5.0.712)
* Kaspersky AntiViral Toolkit Pro"  

http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208279750

Does anyone know anything regarding this issue?

"Please, for the love of God, don’t go near this program! Here is a link to a thread you really need to read before you should even THINK of installing anything Kaspersky!

This program installs “Object Identifiers” that even Microsoft disapproved of! Unless you imaged your drive THERE IS NO SAFE WAY AS OF THIS WRITING TO REMOVE THESE Identifiers! Worse, is KAV’s Attitude! They barely wanted to acknowledge the issue! Please DO NOT INSTALL THIS HORRIBLE PROGRAM!

YOU’VE BEEN WARNED!"

Apparently the problem is with Iswift? I have no idea.

"Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift…

Forever… and I mean it…

I think it’s a terrible shame what they did and how they are now choosing to respond to the situation. I decided to start another thread because I don’t want to see this thread here get “hijacked”…

»The Best Free Antivirus Program?

No answers or solutions yet, eh, Kaspersky?

I will, in the next two weeks, have to revert back to a previous image on three computers. It will probably take me two weeks with my work schedule to get them all done. If Kaspersky had a removal tool for their “problem” I wouldn’t be so upset.

I can’t believe these clowns. Anyone who installs AOL Active Shield is equally at risk, but AOL probably doesn’t care.

I never thought I’d say it, but Hello, AVG Free, or Avira!

And I don’t need my intelligence insulted by a KAV rep implying I am making too much out of nothing; Chekdsk is ruined for me. It hangs like crazy at Stage 2. For two weeks I couldn’t figure it out. Never thought it would be my AV.

Kaspersky, I bought your KIS6,for $11, but with this ■■■■, if I knew then what I know now, even that amount of money is too much… Security is a wonderful thing, but not at the expense of ruining and or altering a basic function of the computer. You guys at Kaaspersky can argue all you want, but you know you’re wrong.

Never again."

"Just uncheck ISwift, why is that so hard?

To add a note… I’m a Kaspersky reseller and have been installing KL products on machines since version 4, hundreds of installs, and have never seen this issue once. I can’t help but to think it is a conflict with another installed application on the computer.

I’m not saying it is or isn’t, just making the observation that with as many installs as I have done never has this problem occurred."

Kaspersky:

"iSwift operating principles:

The technology has been developed for NTFS file system. In this system NTFS-identifier is given to each object. This NTFS-identifier is compared with the values in the special iSwift database. If the values do not coincide with the NTFS-identifier then the object is scanned or rescanned, if it has been changed.

InformationThis algorithm considers the previous scan date and decides whether the object should be re-scanned or not. The decision is based on a geometric series with some random elementS: for example if from the moment of the first scan to the last scan the same period or more passed then the object will be re-scanned. The algorithm does not consider intermediate object scans and their number, only the time period between the first and the last scan is considered. The object will be also scanned in the case of the object settings being changed to stricter ones.

Advantages of iSwift technology:

* iSwift is quicker than iChecker, as it does not calculate check sums of scanned objects. 
* It works with objects of any formats, sizes and types. 

Restricitions of iSwift technology:

* The technology is connected to a definite file location in the file system. If the file was copied/ relocated then it is scanned again.
* The technology can be used for NTFS file system only. That is why it does not function under Microsoft Windows 98SE/ME/ .

InformationThe iSwift technology does not function in Kaspersky Lab’s products versions 6.0.0.299-6.0.1.411, as well as under Windows XP 64-bit."

does anyone know anything about this issue? I have to admit, regarding this issue, I know nothing.

LOL…look at that huge list. I will never use KAV ever.