Web installer can’t safe any significative bandwidth but can cause a lot of bandwidth and time waste for people that need to install on more computers and prevent users to install if they have no active connection available when they want to setup. This don’t mentioning that if something goes wrong during the installation and Comodo cannot complete the setup, the setup procedure itself can cause problem to internet access, and since user hasn’t a standalone installer he cannot even try to reinstall to complete setup and fix the problem.
There are only downsides.
Same here, can’t do my job now
I made a clean install of the new version on my laptop and then installed the Creators update. Until now everything looks normal and my laptop is terrible to update things.
Try excluding all apps in Advanced Protection > Misc > Detect shellcode injection.
Hi Im_Special,
You should be fine either way.
Thanks
-umesh
That seems to have helped, thanks! Although the shell shows me some Permission denied error I’ve never seen before, so far it appears to be functional.
Interestingly enough, excluding ‘All executables’ or even disabling ‘Detect shellcode injection’ option did not have any effect. Disabling ‘Detect shellcode injection’ option with exclude ‘All apps’ rule still in place also causes bash to work. It seems that there must be the exclude ‘All apps’ rule in place regardless of ‘Detect shellcode injection’ option enabled or disabled in order for it to work.
Now if only I could get rid of that CIS desktop icon that appears all by itself 1-2 minutes after being removed…
“Show connections” in the firewall activities shows an empty list
indeed… quite strange.
// bug 2204
Hi All,
For all those, who have been demanding offline installer, their wish has come true!
I have updated main post and referenced full installer web page.
So we will still continue to offer thin installer from main web page of comodo.com, while anyone for whom only offline installer works, can bookmark following page and he can get latest CIS Premium(with Firewall and AV alone) from here upon every future release as well:
Antivirus for Windows 10 | Antivirus Free Download for Windows 10
Thanks
-umesh
First notification of an update since v 10 was released, so I’m still on 8.4. I really don’t want to uninstall and then install the new one, so is it really safe to just click update? Really worries me, jumping versions now.
Win 7 32-bit, since I assume it matters.
Also, offline installers please. Not “for Windows 10” as that page seems to say, not just full suite, but the same as the online ones are, FW/AV/Full separately, with their own hashes to check, and for each version, one reason being just to be able to revert if things go sour.
I mean, been just clicking update when notified (skipping those just for Win 10 and/or just for Chrome), or at least within a few days, picking a suitable time, but always also downloaded the offline FW installer for that version and kept the one for the previous version as well, just in case.
(to be fair, the offline installer link was posted sometime while I was writing this comment, but I’m posting this anyway)
Since there actually seems to be some pushback against providing offline installers, ensuring that the latest version is always installed, let me weigh in with another pro-offline installer argument. It allows simplest re-installment of the latest WORKING version when the latest version proves problematic. On my own Win10 system, I upgraded to CIS v10.0.0.6092 from v8.4.0.5165 and within 24 hours I twice experienced instances where Windows itself became so unresponsive that I could neither start Task Manager nor shut down/restart Windows. My only exit was via the physical power switch. After the second time this occurred, I rebooted and re-installed v8.4.0.5165 from the offline installer I still had on my drive (presumably no longer available through the online installation facility). In the 3 months since I regressed to the older version, I haven’t had any similar episodes of an unresponsive system.
I saw other good arguments favoring offline installers and wasn’t going to pile on until I saw the pushback. Piling on actually feels good, though
I had 8.4 version and tried the update, I got a black screen after restart. I uninstalled Comodo from safe mode, rebooted to normal Windows and then I did a clean install of the new version.
Could appear as one of selectable categories.
I like offline installer because I usually do uninstall > reboot system > install new, with these sorts of things, drivers too, and when I do that I unplug my PC from internet while it is unprotected.
I don’t see the big deal in offering both, like even if someone installs an old version from a different site, they can run the auto-update from within the program and it’ll make sure things are current…
Like umesh said, some have outdated versions, well press the ■■■■ “check for updates” button that built in…
I don’t see this being a problem.
Also whats the best way to uninstall and do a clean install, what registry keys do I need to delete to wipe settings.
Hi Night-Flight,
I wanted to open up the conversation so i could understand needs better.
After a very strong demand for online installer we introduced it. There are certain improvements we want to do in future, where thin installer behaves more like Internet Downloader and till it has downloaded contents, it doesn’t abort.
So far i see three sets of people:
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Who are on low bandwidth and even struggle with AV updates. (GEO based update could be best suited e.g. one of users from China affected)
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People who have multiple PCs at home and on low bandwidth. (You might give a try to https://one.comodo.com/, it’s free and you can centrally manage as well. Let me know why would you would not use that if you have 20 PCs to manage.)
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People who may want to go back to previous version for certain reason as new version may not work for them.
So with offline installer, discussion is closed and we are going to have full installer now and in future versions as well.
Thanks for patience.
Thanks
-umesh
On my laptop I just uninstalled from control panel, rebooted and used Ccleaner, nothing more before installing the new version.
ofcourse CIS informs that there’s program update just before bedtime.
new theme = UGLY AS OLD WITCH’S FACE (way too ■■■■■■ for my taste but maybe some like it)
on a sidenote: did CIS ever got fix to issue between CIS and Vista’s Security Center?
edit: after restart CIS asked stupid questions like can Seamonkey access to plugins and can plugincontainer access to directplay etc, also CIS put Spybot SDTray and few Ati’s thingies to blocked list.
Thank you very much for listening to us!
The reason I believe most users (including myself) want offline installer is that, if we think about it, waiting the files to download from online installer, then install/extract can take roughly the same amount of time as waiting for a full installer to download and then install the software.
The main difference is that if some day there is a website problem/connection problem (which i see happening in the past before), people can go to the offline installer they saved beforehand and successfully install COMODO.
I have also seen instances of malware that play with network settings and can render your network connection non-operational or play with DNS/policies. In that case, having a full installer of comodo (like I always keep) can come in handy.
Those are just a few examples…
While I can understand your reasons to push for the online installer, I believe that choice is important in security and an offline installer is a good fallback solution many times.
So thank you again for giving us the alternative.
And regarding the “always have an up-to-date software”, I see that COMODO is also doing a good job itself with the auto updates through the main software and keeping itself at the latest version.
In other words, better not risk it.
Also, for future reference, when/if I will update to v 10, how well are the settings preserved from 8.4? If there are issues, can an exported 8.4 settings file be imported normally? And if, on the contrary, I update (not uninstall/reinstall), it works, but I do want to get to v 10 Firewall defaults, but had saved changes to the Firewall setting, how do I do that?