Try to look at it this way: Instead of having multiple anti-virus products running on your PC you’d have one utility to protect you against everything. I think that’s the basic idea of the project. What I also dislike from COMODO’s side is trying to enforce one policy just because they think it’s good. You do products for the people, hear them out then. Obviously, one possible option would be they want to make it a bundle with the CIS because they no longer wish people using only a part of their suite and want people to experience the full potential of the whole CIS.
To Melih:
It’s impossible to indulge absolutely everyone. Instead of being grateful for what you do for people they begin to moan about something. I myself have been using BOClean for only a few months maybe, because I only got to know COMODO very recently and I can tell you that nothing has earned my trust in such a short time span as your products, thanks to your firewall, which I believe is the best on the market and so far hasn’t failed me, and I understand, that making it a bundle with CIS will force me to use the entire suite but I’ll do it. I’ve tried the complete suite only recently and was pleased with it as it cleaned up after my Avast installation a lot of mess.
I’ve been using Avast for the past few years and I’ve been always satisfied with it, except for a few minors, until now. Avast is a good software, but one thing that’s bugging me is its weak detection rate. Your computer is clean up to the moment you install something new into it. Afterwards it’s a mess, you just don’t know it. Following the example of CPF I installed the whole bundle and was pleased with it. My PC boosted on performance, as it got freed from over 100 viruses not detected by Avast. I know many of those, maybe even the majority of them were false positives, because the list contained a lot of suspicious files, but together with those suspicious files also the bad guys got wiped out and my computer was running like new again.
I bet 99% of the people here moaning about COMODO didn’t even try CIS. My advice to all of you: Try it before you judge it!
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I don’t understand what did I say wrong. I didn’t insult anybody and what I shared with you here are just my personal experiences. In all manners I only “promoted” COMODO to a higher level and you’re saying I said something wrong?
No one here is moaning about COMODO. The point is that there is NOT just one best security solution for everyone. So the idea to put every single security application ONLY in a suite is from a users perspective just stupid.
Just jumping in to give my 2 cents worth. I have run BoClean for several years. I like it a lot. Obviously it has always been a stand alone program. My question would be: What would be the advantage security-wise of integrating it with Comodo’s firewall and antivirus? Would all three work better together than separately? Would it be cheaper to maintain? Would more people use all three products if they were integrated?
Somehow, I think that security would not be enhanced by the three way integration, and I think that if the integration took place, some people would discontinue using BoClean, because they did not want the other two products installed (for whatever reason) on their computer(s). And in addition, if a person had a problem with the firewall or the antivirus and uninstalled them, BoClean would go as well.
It is interesting while looking at these Comodo forum postings to notice the security software used by the moderators. There is a great variety going on here - I can’t think of one person who uses only one security suite. The same also is true of the moderators of the forums hosted by other security software companies such as Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware, to name just a couple. If the experts find a variety of programs from different sources useful, why not the rest of us?
Why wouldn’t it? If BOClean provides good realtime protection, how could adding it to CIS detract from the overall security performance of CIS? It would simply be adding another inspection vector and another inspection method.
It is interesting while looking at these Comodo forum postings to notice the security software used by the moderators. There is a great variety going on here - I can't think of one person who uses only one security suite.
You mean me? ??? ;D 'Cause I don’t remember any other mod not using CIS. And CIS is good, its conception is the one correct paradigm for TOP security, up to the task of protecting the most critical systems, and I can recommend it–I can recommend my current setup too, as long as you don’t run as admin AND are very careful about what you install on your computer and whether it’s 100 per cent trustworthy.
By the way, not all mods are experts. And since I’m one of the non computer pro… Probably you should rather look at what others use, not me. ;D
I’d always prefer BOClean to be continued, but well, I can understand that Comodo has a very particular (and well-conceived) security paradigm, it’s not about offering good freebies, it’s about telling the world, “this is the way protection must work, you take one piece out and it doesn’t work the same”.
Too bad then that on 3 PC’s CIS just does not run properly and had to removed - CAV is not available as single app any more as well since it got part of CIS.
too heavy CPU usage
updates not going well to not at all
installations hanging and manual fix required (with help from this forum so not an unknown issue i assume)
and more issues making CIS not functional to me.
Also I do like to ‘bet on more horses’ when securing my systems: antivirus scanner from a, malwarescanner from b etc.: by experience this makes more sense and more secure systems.
BoClean is a very nice addition to this (despite its false positive of google chrome…) so I would be sad seeing it pulled back.
but whats the use of adding an application which you have to dismantle / install only partially due to erroreous behaviour on multiple PC’s on XP as well as Vista? Sounds a lil like the reverse way to deal with applications in my opinion… more like an app issue.
sure… i can find multiple apps which i can partially install just because i want one part of which i know functions well. Which is/was the beauty of Comodo app’s: you could make your ideal mix instead.
There is hardly any app comparable to BOClean… thats a big bigplus to keep it available standalone …
It isn’t difficult to understand. Just like many users don’t want an all in one printer/scanner/fax, many users, including myself, don’t want or trust a suite of interconnected programs and won’t use one. By combining multiple programs into one you assure that many of us won’t use any of them. End of story.
Comodo may view this as a design decision, or an economy of effort decision, but it is also a decision of philosophy and will cause users to leave the fold. Users like myself are not likely to change our philosophy just because Comodo has changed (or instituted) theirs.
The same jumping of ship will occur if, for example, MS decides to move all of their apps into the Cloud or tries to get up to save our data there. Certain kinds of change are OK, and other kinds are not. We are NOT all sheep.
How has Comodo changed their philosophy? All they are doing is discontinuing a product as standalone.
If BOClean is discontinued as standalone, then the BOClean devs can join the CIS team, in order to make that product better (tricky, since it’s so very good already) in a shorter amount of time.
I’m not saying that I agree with Comodo’s decision here, I would much rather BOClean have continued development outside of CIS.
But I respect Comodo’s judgement. If they think it is for the best, then it’s for the best
And before someone accuses me of being one, I am not a fanboy.
Hi Beanie, strange isn’t it how all of a sudden all these unknown users jump into the forum to voice their disagreement or concerns on what seems to be a trivial matter offhand. The boys at Comodo will more than likely incorporate BOClean into CIS somehow and you’ll more than likely have a choice of what components of CIS you’d like to install, I really don’t understand newbie philosphy I guess, but that’s only me I guess also, at least some people here who have really understood Comodos’ goal know and appreciate what’s coming their way :-TU
Cheers dude :-TU
Xman 8)
Hi again Beanie, I’m 50 yrs old and I rememeber a time when people used to wade into the lake checking for boulders below the cliffs’ edge before climbing up and diving off of it in order to avoid breaking their necks or worse below the waters surface, I know I’m of those people because I dove but sounded the lake first. Today it’s wow I can use that and will and nobody needs to show me how, oops now I’m toasted because I didn’t bother reading or consult other peoples experiences first, now I all of a sudden I feel frustrated, but I won’t show my broken neck or body, but I’ll complain and gripe though so that I’m not taken for somebody who lives in the afterthought of inexperience and brashfullness…
Xman :■■■■ (:KWL)
Well, if BOClean will be available as a separate entity in the CIS installer everything is well. That’s the only point that discussion is about. Of course Comodo tries the best, but I think there was a reason why Comodo ditched LaunchPad. People appreciated that there were separate tools that are amongst the best-in-breed.
What you seem to forget is that there are “unknown users” who were using BOClean before Kevin came to Comodo. So it is not that strange they join the forum to express their concerns here
