There have been lots of conversations about it, on another forum I ended in a 15 pages thread filled with Israel bashing and only me to protect Israel.
My thought about this is: You kidnap soldiers, you have to pay. Give back the soldiers or I â â â â the â â â â out of you. Quite simple, to be honest.
P.S. I donât think the thread breaks any rules, unless people start flaming each other on a nationalistic/racial/political base. Admins/Mods, feel free to delete the thread if it causes any trouble. :x
Well I donât want to take the part of neither country but it seems really an esageration to me.
2 Months ago on an âair conflictâ (between greek and turkish fighters, but without firing) at Crete in Greece, a greek pilot died because of a collision with one of the turkish airplanes. With your logic Greece should declear war at Turkey.
I am more for the diplomacy and less for the war (:WIN)
Well if the accident happens in your air territory and when the 2 of the 4 hostile plains, carry missiles it is. Some call it an accident and other substane it was organised. The only ones that know the trough are the high position militaries and the goverments of the two countries.
ps. I do believe that Israel should defend itself; but destroying an entire nation for 2 kidnapped soldiers , make me think that a lot more is hidden.
If we wanted them destroyes, they wouldâve been destroyed by now.
The intel. units canât always supply the artillery/armor/airforce units with 100% correct information, which is the reason for so many attacks on civilians. But hey, if youâre going to hide terrorists or Hezbollah soldiers in your house, you have to be ready for something nasty to happen. D:
You misunderstood me. I am not talking about the kids or the innocent people that died. I am talking about destroying most of the roads, bridges, power facilities, etc. And all this for only two simple soldiers? It just isnât convincing. Probably Israel wanted to destroy Hezbollah and this incident gave the right opportunity to do it.
I agree that the kidnap gave Israel the oportunity to act against the Hezbollah, but we donât destroy roads and bridges for fun; since it all started you must understand that they wonât stop attacking untill we fullfil their requests OR till they are all eliminated â they said they wonât surender.
They donât have a nifty airforce like we do, so every action their military and/or terror activities are done from land, and roads and bridges is their most important way of getting from place to place.
Agreed. But now the problem is that this war, in conjuction with the 2 other recent wars in the area risk, if it gets out of hand to mutate in a conflict of east coulture with arabic coulture and if all the countries donât get seriously at the âdiplomatic tableâ and discuss on how to resolve the problems instead of using the military power, we will be involved in a not so far future at a world war 3. And with the weapons that exist we will all say goodby at mother earth
Israel simply acting like an imature boy before they gets their first m@$t**b@t!@n.
A hole in the wall, doesnât mean we have to knock down the entire house to make it right.
âŚrealy. Itâs just as simple as that.
âŚand just to mention another simple sampleâŚ
I live in Indonesia, wich is just a cross border from Malaysia and Asutralia.
Thereâs alot of incident beetwen our country. But every posible solution weâre used to itâs MAXIMUM capability.
âŚif you think kidnaping is bad enough to demolish every human being on the other map of the world, one day youâll start executing every shoplifter youâve found on the street.
Weâre just a mere human. âŚwe smell like skunk. We poop a s**t. We gets hurt just by simply bobing our head to the pcâs monitor, or to an internet switch. It hurt to be so small. âŚbut it IS who we are.
Half your posts made no sense to me, but maybe thatâs because of my limited English. :x
Of course I agree that some of the Israeli actions are too nasty but thereâs got to be a reason for some of this, Iâm sure they donât go blowing up 10 flats high buildings for the kicks of it.
Okay, I really hate to say this but I think it needs to be said before things get worse.
I personally donât fancy discussing any issues related to politics, race or religion that is controversial at the present moment. Please donât get me wrong, I am not a person who doesnât care for anything other than my immediate surroundings. I wouldnât be saying, âWhat does the Isreal and Lebanon conflict got to do with me? It is so peaceful here, so why bother?â
But this is a forum and all of us come from different backgrounds. One statement of yours can be taken very seriously by others and this is when all the flaming starts. The Isreal and Lebanon conflict is still on-going and the heat is still hot. There are half of the world that is supporting either fraction of the war. Talking about this issue in the forum can seriously do damage to Comodo.
I have seen people in my country and even political leaders going gung ho over this conflict. Political leaders themselves would lead a demonstration against a particular embassy in my country. Therefore, I urge all of you not to discuss this here. If political leaders would act in such a manner, I seriously donât think flaming wouldnât start in this forum. I think it is just a matter of time before all hell break loose.
However, if the rest of you feel it is alright to continue, please do. No offence will be taken here on my part (and I hope no offence on your part too) ;). I just think it is not very appropriate to discuss issues that are presently controversial. Discussing something controversial that happens in the past wouldnât be that bad as the sentiment against the issue is much cooler.
I suppose I have to add my two cents to all this. I sit back and watch as wars rage, people hate people in other countries, in their own and everywhere else. Yet talk to a good majority of these people (typical citizens) from most countries and it seems all everyone wants is peace. Well I for one would love that as I donât hate any race, religion or otherwise. What I do hate is the fact that our leaders of every country play dirty games at the cost of innocent human lives. To me THAT is the bottom line, money , greed, politics and I would think religion as a mask for some. I have said this many times and will say it again, letâs take all the leaders of every known place on earth, give them each a gun and tell them to fight it out. I bet the war would be over in about 1 minute, unless Cheney is in there, could be some blood shed, lollll. <âkidding. : We no longer go to war for our freedom, when we have weapons that can obliterate the world, who is truly going to stand down? Either we will destroy ourselves or come to terms of peace, there is no in between iâm afraid. We go to war over political B.S. thatâs all it truly is. If the citizens of all countries want peace, why do we allow our rulers to create such hate and war? The media portrays each country as complete haters of the other country, sickening. The Media, Big business, Government and mother in laws, the 4 horsemen. Whatever my thoughts are, I can say they are truly of peace and I refuse to hate others due to media or other self endulged hate mongers. Create a scenario, the people will follow and follow the hate, thatâs what I think, they keep everyone at eachotherâs throats. Very sad , and I think the leaders of our country should be people who actually care, not greedy rich men. Gondolisa Rice, (I know i didnât spell it right) anyway, the one who looks like the drummer on the muppet show, animal was it? Anyway she may be a she but she aint no better than a he. We need people like Morgan freeman, very smart man and caring at the same time. I know this is a very
âoverallâ opinion but thatâs the way I see it.
Cheers,
Paul
P.S. FACTS: What is the only creature to survive a nuclear war? scroll for answerâŚ
Well, I think it may in fact be due to that lead like shell they have and that beetle hump on their backs. Or I would suppose they can just open their mouths and swallow themselves until the radiation is over. You really should ask Ewen though, I believe he studied this at the In-Law university.
We no longer go to war for our freedom, when we have weapons that can obliterate the world, who is truly going to stand down? Either we will destroy ourselves or come to terms of peace, there is no in between iâm afraid. We go to war over political B.S. thatâs all it truly is. If the citizens of all countries want peace, why do we allow our rulers to create such hate and war? The media portrays each country as complete haters of the other country, sickening. The Media, Big business, Government and mother in laws, the 4 horsemen.