You’re missing the all point… Read every thread, every info provided, and make a new comment.
I’m agreeing with Softpedia on this. 
I surely prefer paid for CIS than see this CIS free bundled version!
Ok, let me rephrase my previuos post. The root issuse is that the ASK toolbar is installed by default. Everyone (including myself) agrees this is a poor choice. My point is this is common practice for vitually every piece of software I get. Flashplayer, Acrobat, Java, all include BY DEFAULT, a toolbar (google) and you are required to unchek the Yes, or select No thankyou, or you get the toolbar.
No one seems to be in as much of a huff over this as the ASK tool bar has raised on COMODO.
If the rules are you only get what you ask for, then about 75% of whats on any download site should be dropped for automatically choosing Yes to the toolbar. No matter that it is Google, Yahoo, MSN or ASK. Yes is a forbidden automatic option. I feel the dropping of COMODO was unfair concidering what everyone else is doing. Unless someone can show that the ASK bar is acting any more malicious than the Google bar, it should not be grounds for this action unless they also take the same action against everyone who includes the Google bar automatically.
I know I have the minority opinion, but fair is fair.
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Note that there’s another poll to express your opinion on the toolbar itself:
This topic is more about all the Softpedia hassle.
Just a couple or personal remarks.
For your information no Comodo staff, let alone Melih, was responsible for the locking of the topics. It was only us unaffiliated moderating crew, and we didn’t even consult with them. It’s our job like this, and we may be wrong at times. Moderators don’t speak on behalf of Comodo unless so stated.
Again, Comodo had nothing to do with the locking of these topics on their forum. It was not their doing.
Also I don’t think it was such a big deal. It’s not the first time topics have been closed to be opened again later. Sometimes to let things cool down, other times it’s a way to put the controversial topic on hold until we mods finish deciding.
And I do think we jumped the gun, and the locking was a bad move. But it was not the H-bomb. And it was not done by Comodo, but by us. And it’s over.
On the other hand I don’t really understand why Softpedia is now so interested in pressing the issue on their news page, harming Comodo. By removing CIS from their site they complied with the cease and desist letter (albeit in an unexpected way), so I see no reason for this little war. ???
While most of this time I have been seeing both sides, after downloading the Ask.com toolbar and seeing CIS hit it as a Virus really hit a nerve. I think this screenshot “see bottom” speaks for itself. I know Softpedia mentions this but had to see for myself.
I have always trusted Comodo products but the more I see of this situation, just being honest, the more I see Softpedia out there talking, releasing info and some Comodo users voicing opinion but the rest is a run around with the same answer. How is this not adware when Comodo detects it as a virus itself? I am truly beginning to wonder and what is implemented to ignore this “virus” upon installation yet not when a user downloads it? I use Comodo firewall and Anti-virus, backup, etc… have for a long time as have others but this is also the first time I can say, there is a fine line being crossed, if not already far beyond the fine line and no matter how much I like Comodo products, this situation is different.
That said, it’s out there and there are a lot of opinions although I feel it’s too complicated to be just one sided but regardless, something needs to be done on Comodo’s end. You can’t be a security software and detect something you yourself give an option to install, it’s simply not right.
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I agree no toolbar, I for one am tired of every software company that comes along wanting me to in stall a toolbar, to me a tool bar is no different then adware and I dont want it on my computer
ASK.com is not so legitimate - they just have the reputation of being legitimate. ASK.com is the proud parent of the most widely distributed adware, spyware, search engine/start page hijacker on the Web - I’m sure you’ve heard of FunWebProducts AKA SmileyCentral AKA WebFetti AKA Zwinky, etc. Yes, it’s true: ASK is the parent of such garbage and it is incredible that no one seems to know that FunWebProducts is the spyware/adware division of ASK.com.
Have you read Kevin McAleavey’s (BOClean Designer), Analysis of the toolbar?
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t24483.0.html
Just a short recap with just conclusions:
There is no doubt any software can change, Spywareterminator did just this and became a top notch app and so it’s also possible for Ask.com. The only problem I still see is the method of how it’s installed in CIS but that’s been bashed to death already.
CIS pulled from Softpedia
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Comodo-Software-Removed-From-Softpedia-110169.shtml
I fully support Softpedia with this issue. It’s not going to stop me from using Comodo, but it is adware
:-TU Exactly my stance on this issue.
While I agree it’s Adware due to the way it’s installed and the fact it has nothing to do with the actual security, I’m waiting to see if something is going to be changed or not, or at LEAST if it’s being considered, this will tell all. Everyone makes mistakes and this may have simply been one of them but that’s getting harder to believe as time goes on without any answers or actions on Comodo’s part.
Seems Symantic learned the hard way as well.
Given your response, we’ve taken immediate action. Moving forward, Norton Internet Security and Norton 360 will now ship with the search box disabled by default.
from…
http://www.itproportal.com/security/hackersblog/article/2009/2/9/here-comes-ask-toolbar-again/2/
Let’s be honest here, even if toolbars\searchbars are not or ever called adware, spyware or malware, most times they simply give an intrusive aura that most don’t like, well, at least those who know better , especially when they don’t contribute to a software function and are simply, there. Even at that, some other software have them, but aren’t SECURITY related and yes that makes a difference in the way people see the integrity of a security software. If it’s Ccleaner, who cares? If it’s a screen capture utility, who cares? Well, some may but if it’s your security, ouch, then many begin to care.
Toolbars contribute to the users who are willing to have them installed but obviously don’t provide any feature useful to those who are not willing to use them.
So the people who do care and can already optout the toolbar during installation are pressuring Comodo so they will not have to click a checkbox but instead have those who don’t care to click a checkbox to optin. ???
Why those who don’t care should make an effort to optin? 88)
Indeed the toolbar provide some revenue which is used to support the development of CIS, available for free even to those who didn’t install Safesurf toolbar.
Even if it’s only a click it makes way more sense to make the toolbar installation easy for those who don’t care to have a toolbar installed.
Toolbars contribute to the users who are willing to have them installed but obviously don't provide any feature useful to those who are not willing to use them.
Yes and no. Some people don’t care and do install them just because, mainly the elderly who think they HAVE to have them or have no clue either way. My wife’s grandmother has a ton of these toolbars due to installs of ALREADY ticked toolbars which I have to constantly remove. She wouldn’t install them if they weren’t already ticked.
So the people who do care and can already optout the toolbar during installation are pressuring Comodo so they will not have to click a checkbox but instead have those who don't care to click a checkbox to optin. ???Why those who don’t care should make an effort to optin? 88)
Exactly the point, if they want it that bad or don’t care, they will check them. When these boxes are checked, it allows for more people to even “accidentally” install the toolbar. That alone is trickery.
Indeed the toolbar provide some revenue which is used to support the development of CIS, available for free even to those who didn't install Safesurf toolbar.
That’s an assumption, Comodo had other ways as well all this time unless that’s changed. Do you know for sure they still can’t make a decent profit from certificates? Now, according to Bill P, he could have retired off what they offered him for the toolbar. So you tell me, is this simply for CIS or other reasons? Neither of us know.
Even if it's only a click it makes way more sense to make the toolbar installation easy for those who don't care to have a toolbar installed.
Sure it makes sense, but also to once again trick users who DO care, into installing it or perhaps “trick” is too strong a word, let’s use “chance”. Chances are by having them already ticked, that people will accidentally install the toolbar which Ask.com itself states they do keep track of installs and uninstalls of this toolbar. Is this what you call right?
The question is not if they make a certain profit that’s needed. Whatever suplementary profit there is will be used, and if they don’t have any suplement the development will have to continue with the limited funds available.
Everyone in these forums knows that users are asking for things to be implemented all the time, Comodo themselves introduce new features on their own, there are bugs to be fixed of course, etc. The more developers on payroll, the faster this will advance.
Since for Comodo it’s a principle to offer CIS for free, they must rely on what they can divert from their income elsewhere, and on these suplementary incomes. I think that developing full security solutions is a very big enterprise, many major companies owe their existence to that by charging for it, and Comodo is competing with them, and they have to find the cash elsewhere.