I confirm what silberlynx says concerning avira: it works together with comodo with no problem whatsoever, it’s what i’m running under xp 32bits and cis 3 with no av and no trusted vendors (and of course no sandbox).
It however takes a few seconds to be activated in the tray, due either to avira drivers themselves, either to the multiple defense+ rules needed in order to run avira.
I didn’t make the test under cis5, where i run cis av (still with no sandbox or trusted vendor).
As per the semi-annual security report of a German security vendor G Data, the amount of new malware applications made a record for H1-2010 with more than a million registered in just six months alone.
The report reveals that during H1-2010, G Data detected 1,017,208 new malware, an increase of 51% over the H1-2009. Strong growth should result in the emergence of more than 2 Million new malicious codes in the complete 2010.
http://www.gdatasoftware.co.uk/uploads/media/GData_MalwareReport_2010_1_6_EN.pdf
http://spamnews.com/The-News/Latest/First-Half-of-2010-Records-More-Than-Million-New-Viruses-2010092213782/
Is it the failure of signatures technology? ???
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Is it the failure of signatures technology?It has always failed, whether you call it avira, cis, nis of whatever you want; cloud or not, av is always uneffective against malware excepting obsolete ones (xp has a anti-blaster executable, has someone seen blaster in the last 15 years?).
It’s however not a reason to advocate for sandbox, trusted editors, and other useless gadgets instead of safe surf and good practices of firewall and hips administration on the behalf that it would be more user friendly and keep the user to be asked whatever by these firewall and hips.
Sure it wasn’t the substitute for good practices.
But could you constrain the user for them? No? So, it’s not the final solution.
Not all the solutions could be called “useless gadgets”…
hey guys
today, and let’s just sum it up:
Avira free does not work WELL with comodo internet security premium , it stops defense plus engine, and blocks updates, and I don’t know what else it stops
not talking about the firewall alone
so why were they so good together before?, and why now, I think it’s intintial from avira’s part, and that’s what bugs me, I don’t know that for a fact < but , you ask avira to exclude comodo’s update, report it to them as a false positive, and nothing happens, . Why now, and not in the previous issues ??
so if you guys, have not tested them together in the case described above, please do not tell me ’ that they work fine, because, I’ll just say that you’re advocating or lobbying for Avira" which is a good program no doubt"
So why wouldn’t they recognize COMODO as safe, and as a false positive, " or say that comodo is not safe, but to ignore the entire issue is beyond my comprehension …
and please if someone want’s to address this issue again, I ask you to read all my replies in this thread …
P.S I moderate 15 forums , and the issue existed in every single one of them with every user,
as for the sandbox
so should we say that it’s not a good defense a pproach,?
I don’t know, but certainly I like that you control programs running in the sandbox better …
and I noticed something I really like< it speeds up some apps , and even browsing notably
and I really do not like people calling the sandbox useless when they had never produced SOMETHING better , or at least say that it does more harm than good, otherwise speaking so loudly against it, is just nonsense …
greatest regards to all and everyone
Oh, I forgot to mention that cloud tech, is awsome, and I like to think of it as the future compacting malwre and elimination tech.
simply because malwares live in cyberspace,and so should the tech battling them ,
not saying that removal tools will seize to exist, just that cloud tech, is smarter
[size=10pt]P.s. [/size]:
Is anyone having problems installing CIS 5?
got it downloaded , but woun’t execute, file’s not corrupt, I’ll try the universal downloader , and let you know in a thread …
cheers guys
Avira free does not work WELL with comodo internet security premium , it stops defense plus engine, and blocks updates, and I don't know what else it stops not talking about the firewall aloneI don't know what "comodo internet security premium" is; every version is exactly the same, outside of the support, not relevant for what we are speaking of. Everything that follows, is as i already said, definitely not true, except maybe blocking update behaviors, both from Comodo and Avira, and concerning several other things then both of them (as an example, both of them attack all of my remote connexion softwares): it pertains to each user to set each of these softwares to allow what he wants to be allowed. You are maybe not able to do so, or do not want to, but it does not entitle you to write counter-truths.
I'll just say that you're advocating or lobbying for Avira" which is a good program no doubt"Another invalid argument. I don't see here people advocating for anything else then comodo itself (and far too much without, as you do, argumenting what they say), and i definitely do not lobby for anyone. I don't believe in a word of whatever av utility, and the only resaon i installed avira some months ago is because in this same forum some people said it to be impossible with cis (without av, of course). And, again, a strange concept of discussion: anyone not agreeing with not your discussions, you haven't made any, but your crude statements, is a "foreign power zealot"; i remember reading this kind of argumentation in other democratic circumstances...
and I really do not like people calling the sandbox useless when they had never produced SOMETHING better , or at least say that it does more harm than good, otherwise speaking so loudly against it, is just nonsense ..The only nonsense i see is being so sure of one's own ideas (even if you can't, as you say yourself, make them to work) that the only answer made to whatever discsussion is that you don't like the one writing it and that he is himself "nonsense". You are free not to like my ideas, but i don't see what entitles you to like me or not: we don't know each other at the day speaking and, for what i am reading, God help me for such an event never to occur.
Last, the gold medal of “nonsense”: did you yourself, in the last hours, produce a new forum rule edicting that anyone speaking against sandbox should “produce something better”, and are you in this statement writing that this forum should become a developpers newsgroup?
I can speak, if someone wants to, about what i think about the sandbox, gathered not only from my own ideas (to which i am entitled to even if they are wrong) but from observations of its behavior in this same forum, but most certainly not with someone not wanting to discuss whatever, a curious and somewhat new behavior in a forum.
Have you already read this?
Let’s not divert this topic about compatibility between CIS and AVIRA.
At NobleArab fi you can reproduce the problem with a clean installation of both CIS, you can follow Chiron’s guide here, and AVIRA please file a bug report in the Bug Reports - CIS board following the format as described in FORMAT & GUIDE - just COPY/PASTE it!.
but your crude statements, is a "foreign power zealot";by [u]brucine[/u]
I don’t know what “comodo internet security premium” is , so why are you buttin’ in??? 88)
but I do know what it is, and that’s why I love it, and the team behind it 
I only hope that you are not making some racist remarks, and that the language barrier is the only thing to blame here, why are u so pumped up, ?? or better yet, I don’t really care
EricJH
I agree
and thank you for your response " and that’s exactly what I meant when I said other people don’t have forums, it doesn’t matter if you have a site and call it a forum when you do not respond to issues posted by people who respect your product and use it : :-La
The universal installer did the job very well , I didn’t even get a notification of an update from CIS 4
I just visited the site as I always do, and found it, and I really never needed to sign up with comodo to find all of my answers, I just did because I wana be with the team … that’s why I never looked around, but I would’ve done that , had the program not installed at all, …
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Thanx a mill guys
True to what malih says!
an antivirus software should not only identify spyware from you machine it should also kill the syware first before they can claim that their product works!
so many AV’s out their are overmarketed you can ask me why!
i have run two computers one without an AV and another on a very common AV my second machine was a zombie after 2 months while the machine without an AV continued with normal operations for 1 year before it became a zombie!
most AV’s trap malware in your computer only to release them when you fail to renew your license… so it becomes like a prison break!
atleast with comodo am liking the ways its working… will be testing it for a year to see results!
Every AV I’ve tried asks you want you want to do with the files in quarantine if you try to uninstall it when there are quarantined files.
Hm, this makes me not happy:
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml
AAaarrghhhh …! :-TD :-TD :-TD
Hi Melih…Congratulations for your best technology and standing top in best proactive suite in the world beating all other AVs…really appreciate your concept of whitelisting. Although CIS Av component detection rate is getting better…and better than all major suites…I would love to see you on top of detection rates…I hope you r going to have best detection rate as I saw somebody told in a video …when it would be plz answer me…please…all the best :ilovecomodo:
I think Antivirus software is actually pretty good, these days not even a HIPS type thing can protect you that well. Comodo is great, but if the user doesn’t know how to identify malware, they will most likely allow the request, so the pop-up will go away. Security products in my option, are just added layers of protection, your the one that calls the shots.
I assume you are referring to a HIPS being used by a novice user.
A HIPS is very strong that goes without saying. HIPS based solutions need the user’s judgment.
To add to Chiron’s comment. Defense + plus sandbox really makes CIS secure and not difficult to deal with. How secure? During the development of CIS the developers threw 15,000 malwares at the sandbox and none of them could infect the system. How silent? See for yourself.
Indeed most AV’s offer misleading information in their interface. Huge green buttons and lights that say “Clean” and “Secure” do not always mean that your computer is actually “Clean” and “Secure”. Why not simply say software status: “No warnings” or something like that?
The problem here is that AV companies take advantage of people’s ignorance. I think that is a very low thing to do to think “Hey, people want to feel safe! So that is what we will sell them! With big green signs that ensure them they are protected with our software! We will win their trust like this!”
Systems need to be more secure. Perhaps the AV companies should work with the OS vendors to make it more secure then pedding thier software to customers.
I have had countless malware attacks even though i have had some of the best anti virus software on the market that claim to give you 100% protection so yes i would say its a fraud >:(