EasyVPN vs. Hamachi - Let's compare!

what u can do, it’s a simply try to set up a ftp server over comodo. try to use cerberus ftp … it’s all works with hamachi, so i think u can try it with comodo as well

The biggest advantage Hamachi has over EasyVPN (to me) is that if a computer’s internet connection or connection to Hamachi drops momentarily, then Hamachi will automatically re-login and connect once the internet connection is reestablished. With EasyVPN, if the connection is lost, one is disconnected from EasyVPN and one has to manually click the button to reconnect and relogin to EasyVPN. This is particularly a pain when trying to use EasyVPN on multiple computers in multiple locations on ones own network - when their connection to easyVPN is lost, I have to manually login to that computer with a different program (like LogmeIn or PcAnywhere) and manually ‘reconnect’ the client computer to EasyVPN.

One other suggestion that EasyVPN lacks (compared to Hamachi) is being able to ‘right-click’ on a computer in one’s networklist in easyVPN and having the selectable option to ‘Browse files’. In Hamachi, this opens up a file explorer window and the remote network’s shared files/folders are displayed. I’ve gotten around this by network mapping the remote folders/drives using their easyvpn-provided ip numbers into windows explorer, but it’s a bit of a pain…

+1 :-TU

Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but is a different username required for each system that runs this? I’m pretty sure that when I used Hamachi, I had one username that I logged into at home and at work, and then had each of those systems in my network group. This program looks to require different usernames, since it logs me out on my home system, when I login at work.

Since you promote this as a simple solution for setting up VPN between a work and home system, why would you require multiple usernames to accomplish that? Or am I doing something wrong?

Yea you will need a different user name for each computer you add to your network. Strange i know.

I’m not 100% certain on this, but I think you need to have separate accounts because the encryption (and the associated key exchange) used for each “name” is unique. You can’t have two identical unique objects. :wink:

How about an iPhone app? When using Hamachi I can use one of the available iPhone VNC clients to connect.

Yeah I want a remote service on my iphone :wink:

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I would like to see a Mac and Linux EasyVPN client with and without a GUI. Hamachi hasn’t updated their Linux offering in well over 2 years and doesn’t provide a GUI.

I’ve been using Hamachi for a long, long time, and the main thing forced me to switch to another VPN service is network limit. Officially Hamachi networks can hold only 16 members; there was a simple way to pass over it, but it was ruined with release of Hamachi 2. In fact, there is a way to have more then 16 users in the network even now, but it’s really really buggy. And by the way, so is Hamachi 2 at all, so i think that EasyVPN is much better than Hamachi 2 for sure - just because you can use it and don’t be afraid it’s gonna die any moment =) The only good things Hamachi 2 has are networks administration (it’s full of convinient features) and easy deployment: you can create a special link, user downloads client from it, and after install he joines needed networks automaticly. So it’s designed for big companies, not for the small communities and private use. But one thing reduced meaning of all of this down to nothing: it’s sooooooo unstable! Another bad thing is that after release of Hamachi 2, 1st version became insane too (i guess it’s all about increased servers loading for the new features of 2nd version).

tl;dr: So i guess nowadays Hamachi is not the thing you can rely on - due to lacks of stability and only 16 users per networks (in non-commercial version, but who will buy commercial license for such an unstable thing?). By the way, what is limit of users for EasyVPN network? I wasn’t able to find anything about it neither on the website, nor on the forums.

Yes, one big thing i´m missing in CEVPN is des the network administration option to delete user from network.
I realy need that option for my network to delete user i don´t want to have in my community.
Hamachi is providing that extra.

I also would like to have an option to change the visual style of the programm (red is not my color) but that is just an ideer ;D

I had been a long time Hamachi user until I discovered that COMODO had a VPN which allows unlimited slots, the option of remote assistance, and file sharing. I have been using EasyVPN for the past 4 months. I have found that EasyVPN has a very user friendly interface and allows a completely secure connection with very little lag if any. The ONLY thing that Hamachi has that is a MUST in a VPN is the ability to REMOVE, KICK or BAN members /and or guests from your private network. COMODO would be wise to release an EasyVPN updated version which allows these basic yet essential administrator rites.

I would like to see proof to that claim. As for comparison with Hamachi, as far as I know not all details of Hamachi’s security are publicly available, so a comprehensive comparison might not be possible, but it’d be nice to see Comodo to publish technical details.

I’ve been using Hamachi for years now, tried EasyVPN today on 2 virtual machines (XP SP3 x86 and Win7 x64). First impression of EasyVPN is that it’s an instant messaging application with encrypted connection between clients, while Hamachi is really just a VPN (which is exactly what I need).

The purpose I use Hamachi for is not to chat with others but to create a VPN connection to my home computers while I’m away. All other access is done through other applications, such as mstsc.exe. I have Hamachi installed on 4 computers: 1) home main computer (usually turned off), 2) home server (always on), 3) university computer, 4) laptop. My needs as to what a VPN should offer follow from this.

My required features of a VPN program:

  • Install VPN on 4 machines. Hamachi creates a unique ID for each machine and basically doesn’t require any further information for setup. EasyVPN needs my name, e-mail, all really unnecessary details that I don’t want to share. The reason for this, supposedly, as mentioned in previous posts is that these details are necessary for the unique identification of the user. I believe they’re NOT - see how Hamachi does it. I don’t want to give you (or anyone) my e-mail address or other details, let alone create 4 different ones for my 4 computers. This is one of the reasons I think EasyVPN is very similar to an IM program - personal data is not required if it’s just a VPN.
  • Hamachi can be configured to run as a service without the need to log on as a user. I need this in case I have to restart my home server, or when I wake up my main home computer in order to access it via RDP. Unless I configured these computers to log on automatically to a user account, I wouldn’t be able to run EasyVPN.
  • Remote Desktop access. Hamachi VPN allows me to access other computers on the network using mstsc.exe and the VPN IP. I wasn’t able to successfully run mstsc.exe /v:IP between the two virtual machines running EasyVPN. I would like to know if this should work or it is intentionally blocked? The remote desktop connection built-in in EasyVPN is not a suitable replacement because of the need of manual approval on the remote side - clearly, I’m away from home therefore I can’t do it. Also, while you consider automatic acceptance of a built-in remote desktop connection a possible security risk, I think RDP (with mstsc) over VPN should not fall into the same category and should be allowed.
  • Robustness. Contrary to what other posters claimed, I never had stability issues with Hamachi. When the connection fails for some reason (might be network or their occasional server restart), the clients usually automatically reconnect. I tested EasyVPN’s reconnection abilities and found that on a network disconnection after a couple of seconds the client lost the connection to the server, tried reconnecting for 10-20 seconds then gave up and displayed the log on screen. EasyVPN should try much longer, preferably infinitely each couple of minutes. Best would be to make this behaviour configurable.
  • Advanced settings. E.g. Hamachi’s custom menu command, or the previous point.

What Hamachi doesn’t have but EasyVPN could or does(?):

  • Comprehensive and open documentation concerning technical details.
  • Direct connection between between computers on the same LAN. I believe Hamachi fails to recognise this situation and thus the connection between my home server and main home pc is always relayed.
  • Create VPN without access to Comodo server between computers when it’s possible (i.e. no firewall punching necessary) - I see, however, that this feature would create too many complications.
  • Direct connections should prevail even if Comodo server is down. In my experience Hamachi network falls apart after a while when the servers disappear even if two computers are connected through a direct connection, which essentially shouldn’t require a server to be present.

These were my impressions after about 10-20 minutes of using EasyVPN. I like and have been using CIS for ages so I’m confident EasyVPN will also be a successful product.

p.s. It’s well hidden in the long text above, therefore I’ll repeat my question: should RDP connection with mstsc.exe work on EasyVPN network or is it intentionally blocked?

We couldn’t get Hamachi working at all; probably due to the different OSes we’re using (XP, Vista and 7). Some machines could ping each other but not all and we never actually managed to get a game on it.

Been gaming over EasyVPN regularly; playing:

Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Jagged Alliance 2 1.13 HAMM (modded JA2 version)
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Splinter Cell: Conviction
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (and mods)
Rainbow 6 Vegas
Rainbow 6 Vegas 2
original Ghost Recon (and mods)
Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising
ARMA 2 Demo

Possibly a couple more I can’t remember. Mostly we’ve only been able to get them running when we get a direct connection, OGR is fine with relay but has to be run as if internet with the IP as the EasyVPN one or as LAN on direct.

There’s been the odd problem with getting a direct connection, and just sometimes not being able to log in for some time (flashing icon in taskbar as it keeps trying), but generally speaking EasyVPN has been great for ease of use/setup and reliability.

Why i use Hamachi?

Coz have linux version, i and many my friends use ubuntu or double OS. This make Hamachi our vpn even EasyVPN come much better then hamachi.

So we waiting for ubuntu EasyVPN:)

i know this topic is long dead,but still,i had to say…i LOVE easy VPN over hamachi!
I hosted a server using hamachi(my connection is 1mb/s download,80kb/s upload,pretty bad) on a 2d platformer,Terraria(maybe you’ve heard of it,it’s a great game)
Basically,i had to find another host,there was way to much lag with my connection.Other than that,no offline messages,no smileys,no remote control,slows done computer,the adapter remains activated after you power off hamachi,can’t be closed completely,sometimes not working at all,ping never worked.

Now,in search for something better,tried easyvpn.My connection can now host a server of >20 people in the same time(before had lag with 2 poeple),conference option,smileys,microphone,no lag,offline messages(something i would have LOVED in hamachi),can be closed completely,the adapter shuts itself when the computer is offline…
The result?EasyVpn is the SUPREME program for this kind of thing,and i’m moving my entire server right now!

thats great to hear! thank you for letting us know.

we are continually improving EasyVPN.

Melih

Good to hear that!One question though…did you add that kick/ban feature that was requested 1 year ago?Does adding the ip to firewall do the job?

Shane is in charge of EVPN, if you ask him he will be in a better position to answer it tbh.

Hi All,

EasyVPN has undergone a lot of changes including a new fresh name of Comodo Unite.

There are many new features and improvements, such as auto-reconnect, multiple login with one user account with a My Computers section under Networks listing all your own computers, application sharing directly in the chat window, support for other 3rd party IM such as MSN and Facebook and under Tools->Manage Networks feature gives you the ability manage users on your networks.

Comodo Unite 2.5.54.0 RC has been released in the Beta Corner.
https://forums.comodo.com/beta-corner-cevpn/comodo-unite-25540-rc-released-t73054.0.html

Shane.