Comodo OS [merged topic]

General Category Which Product do you want Comodo to develop next?
#1

i have used Comodo for 3 years now and after the release of the CIS 2013 witch i am very pleased with by the way i have a idea witch i would like to see and you are all ready part way there.

now having used the virtual Kiosk and it having all i would ever need to use my laptop for i thought why can we not just have a boot version that can be installed and then i can get rid of my s**t windows 7 LOL.

Also is there a way in CIS 2013 other things can be added to the task bar for eg i like a clean desk top so to put the shortcut for comodo programs mangier there. if not there shoud be a all in one program

thanks
D Moore
(UK)

#2

Welcome to the forums. See the following:
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t84561.0.html
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t74689.0.html
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t35179.0.html
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t49309.0.html
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t52374.0.html
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t53083.0.html
https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t11322.0.html

Oh, and believe me, you would not be able to completely ditch your Windows 7 especially if you fall under these categories:

  1. Gamer
  2. Has job that requires a specific Windows software
  3. Shared laptop
  4. nVidia Graphics card user
  5. Hardly-any-experience-with-other-OS-but-has-a-job-that-needs-a-computer user

That and the you would have problems with the following should you pursue the above wish:

  1. Hardware and software
    One of the most basic problems encountered in Linux is hardware compatibility primarily with graphics cards. Since Windows hold a majority of the market, companies manufacture hardware specifically optimized for Windows and little to no support for Linux.

  2. Usability
    Because of the specific requirements of an OS, we might want to consider how exactly should it benefit the average user to have an OS designed for maximum security if not only for browsing purposes? The OS therefore should merely be nothing more than just a playground of sorts rather than a work desk (otherwise completely defeats the purpose of security because 1. the fact that you use it regularly for browsing translates to exposing your data to the internet and 2. since no OS can be completely secure, it falls to the question of how secure would Comodo OS be? It is directly proportional to its share in the market, the more people use it, the more vulnerable it becomes).

  3. Resource
    Managing the demands of an OS will require a great amount of resource, particularly human, and therefore hinders the development of other products. If distributed free, it either garners little support until it is eventually abandoned, or that the company drops all other products to incorporate on the OS and compete with Microsoft, Apple, Google, and to a degree, Oracle and Nokia/Accenture, and forget free.

If based on Linux, then the foremost difficulty to cover would be which distro (over which you would have to choose if you would adapt rolling-release distros or non-rolling-release distros, or if a little more daring, re-write them which I doubt anyone has time for these days) and the repositories.

  1. Availability
    Distros specifically designed for such purposes do exist and are better executed than the ones proposed above (perhaps a bit more reading on the topic would help them better understand why the ones they are proposing is not a viable suggestion). Examples of which would be:

  2. Qubes OS
    The Invisible Things Lab's blog: How is Qubes OS different from...

  3. Vyatta
    http://www.vyatta.com/

  4. Openwall
    Openwall GNU/*/Linux (Owl) - a security-enhanced server platform

  5. Smoothwall
    http://www.smoothwall.org/

  6. EnGarde Linux
    http://www.engardelinux.org/

  7. Lightweight Portable Security
    http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm

  8. Ipfire
    http://www.ipfire.org/

  9. Astaro/Sophos
    http://www.astaro.com/node/11427

  10. Hardened Linux distros

  11. RAM-bootable portable OS such as SliTaz, ■■■■ Small Linux, Puppy Linux and Live CD’s

To conclude? Well, Comodo OS would be completely pointless.

#3

Hi and welcome Obyron,
For a widely used, highly functional, very compatible, relatively reliable and stable OS with some quite good self healing capabilities, poor old MS Windows does cop a lot of flak.
If the over dramatised negative media about MS Windows was anything to go by, then MS Windows would have died off years ago. :wink:

#4

Thanks for the reply guys i am now investigating the above OS links its talking a lot of reading LOL but verry interesting all the same i will defiantly be using something from one of them
as for use of a pc…

  1. Gamer YES but do it on a Xbox 360
  2. Has job that requires a specific Windows software NO
  3. Shared laptop NO
  4. nVidia Graphics card user NO
  5. Hardly-any-experience-with-other-OS-but-has-a-job-that-needs-a-computer-user Have used the beta of the chrom OS and Back track 5

now all i do is web brows and download “things” and streem

well thanks for the worm welcome its better than other forums iv been on.

#5

You are welcome, thanks for the forum compliment. :slight_smile:

#6

Widely used because Microsoft are a monopolized company, highly dysfunctional (cannot run for long periods of time without requiring a restart e.g; servers, and the registry deteriorates over times slowing your pc down), compatible again because of it being widely used due to a monopolized company, what self healing capabilities? Microsoft take too long to push updates out.

#7

Hi abtekk,

They did not get to this point alone.

what self healing capabilities?
MS Windows operating system have many built in, diagnostics, repair, recover, troubleshooting functions as you would already know if that is what you are using. It picks up on hardware changes automatically, this is a type of self healing otherwise it would crash. [url=http://blogs.technet.com/b/doxley/archive/2008/10/29/self-healing-ntfs.aspx]Self-healing NTFS[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_File_Protection]Windows File Protection[/url] on earlier OS. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Resource_Protection]Windows Resource Protection[/url] on more recent OS. There is much more if you are willing to do some research but that is enough for this topic as it is !ot!, which I do apologise to the OP.
#8

Just for the record, Comodo is in the security business, not not the OS business as Microsoft is.
This has been asked before but won’t happen.

#9

This is probably asking for something way too big to implement, but it would be great if Comodo could produce an ultra-secure Operating System. Maybe it could be a secure Linux distribution, or to be even more secure it could be based on OpenBSD (but with a far nicer GUI - it’s like going back to the 1980’s when you use OpenBSD!).
The secure OS could have the Comodo Antivirus for Linux, Comodo Dragon/IceDragon, Comodo Secure DNS, TrustConnect VPN and a decent firewall all pre-installed, and the partition could be encrypted too.

At the moment if someone asks whats the most secure Operating System, most people would say OpenBSD. If Comodo could create a secure Operating System, I’m sure the title of ‘most secure OS’ could be claimed by Comodo very easily!

#10

https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anything-and-everything/cooking-up-a-comodo-os-t94923.0.html

#11

Merged now. :slight_smile:

#12
[quote="MorphOS REBOL post:1126, topic:202429"] https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/computers-can-be-hacked-without-internet-connection-using-cellphones-t105140.0.html;msg763649#msg763649

I guess, it’s time for COMODO to enter the HW sector NOW. Seems to be quite the right moment.

Give us an impenetrable, completely shielded COMODO machine, running an impenetrable COMODO OS.

Maybe this “ol’ friend of mine” could be of any help? :wink:

http://www.sassenrath.com/

Just one of quite a few thoughts that came to my mind lately. Why not give him a chance (he’d deserve it, for sure, as he’s always been a visionary, maybe he’d be more than interested? :wink:

This would / could very possibly also include / demand moving Comodo’s headquarters to outside the US of A, I guess. Which (other) Company will be the first to do so?

Since COMMODORE USA’s death in December 2012 (directly connected with Barry S. Altman’s death, this time, of course) COMODO would (and in my opinion SHOULD) be the ONE to finally REVIVE the good ol’ thought of COMPUTING as a POSITIVE THING.

WHO ELSE, I dare asking you, would deserve to make such a (daring as well, yes) step?

SO, imho, COMMODORE (yes, I’m directing these my words to you, Melih :slight_smile: ) should be revived, this time not only as a SW company (which COMMODORE USA had been in the end, as we all know) but as a HW Company.

Be sure, if that works, millions of users out there would not only be PROUD of you. It’d be much more than that. :slight_smile:
Of course, that’d have to include producing / supervising the production of processors / mainboards / etc. as well.

If patents are an obstacle, there’d always be the option of similar naming / branding:

COMODO-re, just for a rather cheap example 8)

Melih, you would, of course, be declared “holy” by our children’s children, and, if failing at this, at least a “martyr” of our times. >:-D

Now I’m going to do some gaming on one of my old Amiga’s. That’s for sure. 8)

Think about it, please, it’s high time, I think, as I don’t really want any OTHER company out there to be faster reacting to some “futuristic ideas” by ol’ REBOL me…

Kind regards. :slight_smile:

Cheers, REBOL.
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#13

At MorphOS REBOL: I moved and merged your topic with an existing topic.

#14

Compatibility and experience won’t be really a problem if it is based on the ReactOS project. :wink:

ReactOS® is a free open source operating system based on the best design principles found in the Windows NT® architecture (Windows versions such as Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built on Windows NT architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS is not a Linux based system, and shares none of the UNIX architecture.

The main goal of the ReactOS® project is to provide an operating system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows® applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system. Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of Windows® would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal of ReactOS® is to allow you to use it as alternative to Windows® without the need to change software you are used to.

ReactOS 0.3.16 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.


#15

Okay, okay, okay. Let me just understand better. Does anyone have any ideas that can make any specific OS any more secure than it already is aside from installing stuff from comodo by default? A difference, a feature that makes it unique and necessary. Like for example qubes os which in theory solves the security problems posited by monolithic kernels, or engarde which essentially simply makes it easier to enforce SELinux policies and monitoring via a web-based interface, or Astaro that lets you configure their software according to your hardware needs. LPS on the other hand is a non-persistent OS which supposedly ensures you are safe every reboot. So how would Comodo OS be any different? How do you picture it? I’m not trying to condescending, don’t get me wrong. All I’m doing is helping you develop a clearer picture of what exactly is it that you’re looking for in this request so that we can all see and understand why everyone is asking for this. Because if it is just the brand, then heck you might as well just theme your OS then install all Comodo software while disabling everything else unnecessary. So please think about it. Let me give a few ideas:

Do you…

  1. want all applications to use Comodo DNS by default?
  2. want to enforce specific policies that cannot be done on Linux or Windows such as for example, a policy that manages CPU usage (e.g. no application will consume more than n% CPU for x minutes {rogue programs policy} or that only one application may have access to clipboard at any one time by passing all requests to a custom clipboard prog {spyware policy})?
  3. want a binary that prevents execution of any unwanted and/or unexpected behavior either via spoofing or brute termination?
  4. want forceful program isolation so that no one software has access to all sensitive data at any one time?

These are just examples of course. But come on, think about it. How could an OS be any more safe than the ones we have while still maintaining compatibility if that compatibility is a vulnerability in itself? You’re better off with a single application rather than an entire OS. If anything, that OS would be nothing more than just a bundle of apps. Not to be condescending but has anyone who has ever requested this thought of how it will be done?

#16

To be honest, I don’t think that everyone (or even most) of us REALLY DO need all of those “beautiful” options certain “established” operating systems do offer atm.

I know, there’s many gamers out there who will say otherwise, of course they will. I’ll dare to question that, though. If I have to give up any security / privacy just for the sake of being able to play the latest games, I’ll just say: No, I don’t really need all that ■■■■. Lifetime is rather short, and: Life has so much more on offer than just playing the latest high res war games (oftenly disguised as something totally different, of course). I don’t need to be part of anyone’s silly propaganda, even if one manages to put all of this in the most beautiful “shell”, maybe a cult fantasy game.

I really do hope I’m not alone with those “feelings”.

Kind regards, REBOL. :slight_smile: