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Commandeering people around, which is your way of writing, may be considered common courtesy in the army but not as much in civil society.

Dch48 decided to to attack ME for speaking my mind politely and concisely directed to someone else. Also I wasn’t the one who said or brought into the conversation anything about anyone being evil.

Second, I was simply responding to what I perceived was another effort by someone who felt they could talk down to someone with less post count and be condescending about something that wasn't their place beyond giving their opinion, in which case should not have been directed as an attack on me. If they had a valid point, they should have simply stated it and argued for it logically.

Third, Even then I didn’t attack the person, I simply stated my position against what they said. Offered them a draw to drop it at the end since I have better things to do than to engage in petty banter with someone I don’t know and couldn’t care less about.

I think you stand your ground.
You’re talking about being attacked. I am not defending what Dch48 because jumping to the Google evil argument is not a valid one, but your direct military like approach can be considered attacking in the civilians world.There is a reason that military like communication is confined to that shielded part of our societies. There is an analogy to the world of business where competitive behaviour is allowed in that sphere that we most of the time don’t like in the social and personal sphere
This is a technical forum and I shouldn’t have to teach anyone social etiquette/
Which indeed you shouldn’t.

But after 20 years in the Corp as a Major, I won't be strong armed into silence by anyone either, especially one post pumping by hijacking comments to someone else who made it.

So in summary, my intent was not to come here to confront anyone, or to engage in any type of posts like this so you and I both would be grateful for the civility. I appreciate your input and agree with you completely but its a two way road, I can’t be the only one. :-TU

BTW, Dch48 made the mountain but Google is STILL evil >:-D

Please stop competing.

You aren’t Google either. Your stab under water was not needed.

Probably, and yeah we can probably accept it was a small mistake but what is insignificant to you may not be to others and frankly on a matter of principle, a failure is a failure is a failure when it doesn't match the mission, no matter how you slice it The fact that a small one happened means another can happen and how long before its a BIG one?
The bug was fixed and until further notice I assume Comodo learns from it like I trust the army to be professional enough to learn from its mistakes it makes during training and operation.
Seems to you, nothing is a big one since you operate on the default that since any failure is covered by Google as a failsafe, we are all dandy. Which begs the question that if Google is so perfect and therefore the Chrome they make is perfect, why do we need Dragon to make improvements on it?
Now you're twisting Dch48's words.
BTW, I promised [at]kail at least for myself that I won't engage in this kind of waste, so consider this my last reply out of courtesy and principle, if you wish to continue it, make sure its actually related to something technologically useful to the function of the software as that's the only reason I am here investing my time, not to have petty discussions.
Your commandeering and competing attitude surely created waves but I'm afraid that your concern is getting lost in the process

There are tools to deal with that like Privdog, Ghostery and others.

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Found Comodo Dragon 30 of the BUG.

extensions can not be manually updated.

As well.

extensions can not be automatically updated.

Above.

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Your opinion which I fought for you to have, so your call and I wasn’t in the Army.

I think you stand your ground.You're talking about being attacked. I am not defending what Dch48 because jumping to the Google evil argument is not a valid one, but your direct military like approach can be considered attacking in the civilians world.There is a reason that military like communication is confined to that shielded part of our societies. There is an analogy to the world of business where competitive behavior is allowed in that sphere that we most of the time don't like in the social and personal sphere

I won’t have my discipline criticized by anyone, although I respect your right to do it, but I consider that I approach things with some degree of thought to be an asset not a flaw. Maybe the civilians opening their mouth before thinking is something confined to this unshielded part of our society that should change, and defended less or excused. You are in fact attacking me under the guise of analysis but its transparent. Maybe instead of defending the poorly disciplined, you should be attempting to educate THEM. Just a thought.

Which indeed you shouldn't.

Neither should YOU!

Please stop competing.You aren't Google either. Your stab under water was not needed.

I am not competing, I don’t have to. I have to have a worthy adversary pertaining to a cause to do so and I don’t see one, do you? I am glad I am not Google and never claimed in any way that I was. It wasn’t a stab under the water. I stand by my actions, I had promised not to dignify the person’s continued “mountain” and yet they saw fit to comment, so I simply posted an open response without even naming them. I think I was pretty OPEN with my actions, where was the stab under the water or even a stab? Also, the comment that elicited what you consider a stab under the water was not needed either. You must be dealing with alot of cowards and backstabbers my friend. I face who I deal with. I never responded until responded to, EVERY TIME. Did you notice that while you were admonishing me?

The bug was fixed and until further notice I assume Comodo learns from it like I trust the army to be professional enough to learn from its mistakes it makes during training and operation.

I have never known the “Army” learning anything, but I suppose I get your point. I simply said that people’s surprise at finding out something that they didn’t expect should be treated with respect, simple as that, I didn’t say that Comodo wasn’t entitled to make a mistake, they have made TONS. Need I bring up the CA mess?

Now you're twisting Dch48's words.

Simple conclusion, explain why? We only have your opinion on this at the moment until you can justify it by explaining how I twisted it. It was said that it was covered by Google, how is that twisted?

Your commandeering and competing attitude surely created waves but I'm afraid that your concern is getting lost in the process

That’s the second time you used that word and your intentions for it are as transparent as they are inciting, please stop it, since you are creating the wave now. I did no such thing to create waves, I stated and that was it, it was the unnecessary and overbearingly fanboyish responses by a user which I suppose has been cradled by likes of you to feel entitled to belittle someone else that lead to this. Your blame is misplaced, but if me bearing it is something that would soothe you, so be it. But the example you are setting here by your comments to me so late in the game, is exactly the problem. The other person who approached me on this did it properly and I respectfully honored it, you picked at the scab and did it with insults and hidden jabs and lack of courtesy befitting a so called MODERATOR. Consider that my unsolicited critique of YOU, figured after yours I was entitled to one of mine, no?

There are tools to deal with that like Privdog, Ghostery and others.

Privdog is a useless all or nothing solution being shamefully pushed by Comodo that attempts to mimic Ghostery and others but does it very poorly and the first thing to be removed on any of my clean installations. Oh BTW, your lack of technical knowledge is showing, TCP communications to servers such as Google are NOT covered by such tools unless they specifically relate to something such as Adsense, Google Analytics, Webtrends and such commonly known as Web Bugs for which an application has a filter to catch it. That doesn’t blanket cover data leaks, just so you know.

I wish I could say its been enlightening but alas, just a bigger mountain. (:CLP)

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Actually I discovered this right away and reported it here. It appears to be a problem they are aware of and will be fixed in the next release, whenever that is. The application also fails to update too but they are claiming its unrelated but we’ll see. Still waiting some testing and results.

EDIT:
Just updating on the application update issue, seems to be unrelated to whatever is causing the extension update issues. It is somehow failing the direct connection directive and port hopping on LOCALHOST, so trying to figure out why. Just a heads up.

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Hmm seems like I can’t comment on youtube videos until I install Script Defender… Without Script Defender, when I click the comment field it opens a new webpage which closes and leaves the box inactive and when I click it the same thing happens again… With Script Defender, when I click the comment field it simply becomes active…

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The only problem I see is that printing from Dragon in the Kiosk still does not work.

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You stated you were a major in the Corps which made me assume you had a military background. Giving it a little more thought I figured that could be the Corps of engineers which as far as I know, not a US citizen here, part of the army. As far as I know the rank major is not used in US law enforcement so that again leads me to believe you were in the army.

I won't have my discipline criticized by anyone, although I respect your right to do it, but I consider that I approach things with some degree of thought to be an asset not a flaw. Maybe the civilians opening their mouth before thinking is something confined to this unshielded part of our society that should change, and defended less or excused. You are in fact attacking me under the guise of analysis but its transparent. Maybe instead of defending the poorly disciplined, you should be attempting to educate THEM. Just a thought.

Neither should YOU!

You’re proofing my point about commandeering, barking, people around as you please and in the quoted post you top if off it with contempt.

I am not competing, I don't have to. I have to have a worthy adversary pertaining to a cause to do so and I don't see one, do you? I am glad I am not Google and never claimed in any way that I was.
You criticize Dch48 that he cannot be certain of his point of view about Google because he wasn't Google. You are upholding the view that [quote="GµårÐïåñ post:53, topic:294122"] Google is indeed evil and if you need proof, then you haven't been paying attention. To what extent you surrender to the devil is your choice and just because you surrender a little here or there, doesn't mean you have given up or should be considered inconsequential. [/quote] which you bring as the final truth about Google. And since you are not Google either so as a logical consequence it follows that your opinion cannot be final either. If that is not competition, I mean holding a polar opposite opinion and fighting with big words, then Satan has taken over the place.. ;)
It wasn't a stab under the water.
In my book it is:
Care to share how you KNOW all about it, please share so the rest of us can know too and therefore become loyal subject of the kingdom of Google and submit as well.
It's a rehash of the polarization earlier where you are calling people sheep. It's a stab and under water because it's not totally direct...
I stand by my actions, I had promised not to dignify the person's continued "mountain" and yet they saw fit to comment, so I simply posted an open response without even naming them. I think I was pretty OPEN with my actions, where was the stab under the water or even a stab? Also, the comment that elicited what you consider a stab under the water was not needed either. You must be dealing with alot of cowards and backstabbers my friend. I face who I deal with. I never responded until responded to, EVERY TIME. Did you notice that while you were admonishing me?
Officer, I was provoked because the guy said .. fill in the blank.... and therefor it justifies my aggressiveness..
I have never known the "Army" learning anything, but I suppose I get your point.
Now you are starting to worry me... ;) Still that would mean though nowhere near perfect the army suffices to a great extend. Couldn't something similar be extended to Comodo?
I simply said that people's surprise at finding out something that they didn't expect should be treated with respect, simple as that, I didn't say that Comodo wasn't entitled to make a mistake, they have made TONS.
There were three short replies. One from siketa and two similarly short from sergey. The second reply by sergey politely referred to the release notes. So far as my view as a moderator goes.

I cannot comment on why Comodo had not given it more publicity while the bug was affecting the users. And that’s what you like and demand to know.

Need I bring up the CA mess?
I am not going to change my name into Ben Dover all of a sudden... ;)

Simple conclusion, explain why? We only have your opinion
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I don’t have too much of an opinion on this particular issue. On a sidenote; mods are not Comodo employees. We’re end users like yourself who take a liking in Comodo products.

on this at the moment until you can justify it by explaining how I twisted it. It was said that it was covered by Google, how is that twisted?
See my reply at the end; I think it covers this.

That's the second time you used that word and your intentions for it are as transparent as they are inciting, please stop it, since you are creating the wave now. I did no such thing to create waves, I stated and that was it, it was the unnecessary and overbearingly fanboyish responses by a user which I suppose has been cradled by likes of you to feel entitled to belittle someone else that lead to this. Your blame is misplaced, but if me bearing it is something that would soothe you, so be it. But the example you are setting here by your comments to me so late in the game, is exactly the problem. The other person who approached me on this did it properly and I respectfully honored it, you picked at the scab and did it with insults and hidden jabs and lack of courtesy befitting a so called MODERATOR. Consider that my unsolicited critique of YOU, figured after yours I was entitled to one of mine, no?
After kail had asked you you still showed combativeness and that's where I stepped in. And your responses to me confirmed a pattern.

That being said when you feel mistreated by one of us please follow How to appeal against Moderators decisions. I will then be pulled up for review by my peers.

Privdog is a useless all or nothing solution being shamefully pushed by Comodo that attempts to mimic Ghostery and others but does it very poorly and the first thing to be removed on any of my clean installations. Oh BTW, your lack of technical knowledge is showing, TCP communications to servers such as Google are NOT covered by such tools unless they specifically relate to something such as Adsense, Google Analytics, Webtrends and such commonly known as Web Bugs for which an application has a filter to catch it. That doesn't blanket cover data leaks, just so you know.

I wish I could say its been enlightening but alas, just a bigger mountain. (:CLP)

I did try to lookup a bug report and checked three release topics to find the offending bug to no avail.

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Yes I did serve in the military. Not the Army though. Read my greeting, what does it say?

You're proofing my point about commandeering, barking, people around as you please and in the quoted post you top if off it with contempt.

I am barking now, wow you are just full of surprises. And wrong, maybe you are projecting. Exactly what did I bark? YOU are the one who showed up talking out of your depth and dragging this on. Get a hobby I don’t have time to stroke your ego, Not enough to moderate you have to waste my time? or do you need to make sure people know you exist?

You criticize Dch48 that he cannot be certain of his point of view about Google because he wasn't Google. You are upholding the view that which you bring as the final truth about Google. And since you are not Google either so as a logical consequence it follows that your opinion cannot be final either. If that is not competition, I mean holding a polar opposite opinion and fighting with big words, then Satan has taken over the place.. ;)

You are so babbling here, I don’t have time to deal with the drivel.

In my book it is:

Get a new book, you’ve been misled.

It's a rehash of the polarization earlier where you are calling people sheep. It's a stab and under water because it's not totally direct... Officer, I was provoked because the guy said .. fill in the blank.... and therefor it justifies my aggressiveness.. Now you are starting to worry me... ;) Still that would mean though nowhere near perfect the army suffices to a great extend. Couldn't something similar be extended to Comodo?There were three short replies. One from siketa and two similarly short from sergey. The second reply by sergey politely referred to the release notes. So far as my view as a moderator goes.

I cannot comment on why Comodo had not given it more publicity while the bug was affecting the users. And that’s what you like and demand to know.
I am not going to change my name into Ben Dover all of a sudden… :wink:

Simple conclusion, explain why? We only have your opinionI don’t have too much of an opinion on this particular issue. On a sidenote; mods are not Comodo employees. We’re end users like yourself who take a liking in Comodo products. See my reply at the end; I think it covers this.
After kail had asked you you still showed combativeness and that’s where I stepped in. And your responses to me confirmed a pattern.

That being said when you feel mistreated by one of us please follow How to appeal against Moderators decisions. I will then be pulled up for review by my peers.
I did try to lookup a bug report and checked three release topics to find the offending bug to no avail.

You are just descending into an intellectual void and I find it a waste of my time, seriously get a hobby. I don’t need to come here to contribute to a TECHNICAL project while having to educate someone who has an overly inflated sense of authority and not enough quality to back it up. Keep this going, drop it, your call but I am done trying to be civil to you. Seems that at some point wrestling with the pigs just gets you muddy and pleasures the pigs, I am done getting muddy.

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This diatribe has no place in THIS forum!

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I have to agree. This discussion has seriously devolved to the point that even the moderator is getting in on it. Enough bickering.

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Agreed, didn’t ask for it, made a simple comment with respect and then got haters on my ■■■, can’t do anything about it, especially with a mod leading the charge. Sorry folks.

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This has run way off topic.
Everyone please stay on topic and if any personal issues need to be resolved or discussed further, please do so via personal messages in a civil manner.

Thank you from Captainsticks.

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Yes, it’s true it’s a bug. We have a fix for this which will be included in the next Dragon release. Sorry, for the inconvenience. Thanks for your attention for our product and for your contribution.

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Recommend Comodo Dragon 30.1 fix this BUG.

Also ppgooglenaclpluginchrome.dll element added to the Comodo Dragon 30.0 which will not be opened.

Please be amended.

First get stable and then a next (31.0) version!

Thank you very much. :-TU :wink:

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Agreed, since we let it die, especially after kail asked, if Eric really wanted to make a valid point, he could have written me and Dch48 privately but choosing to do it openly speaks to its own motives. I will abide by original promise to kail barring any more “fodder” coming my way :-TU

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I would appreciate if you respond to my report for this issue and explain the requested technical information on the problem. Thank you.

UPDATE:
Thanks for the reply, will keep you posted on the information you requested.

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Sorry your last post was enough without this one please desist and stay on Topic.

Please read the Forum Policy

Thank you

Dennis

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Dragon is good browser. But latest versions of Chrome are not as fast as used to be. This can naturally be seen in Dragon too. Or maybe it is as fast as it has been before but at least what it comes to my pc there is two browsers which are now faster so that I can feel and see the difference. Amazingly fast(speed is the thing I want most when using internet)actually: Internet Explorer 11 and Opera 17. It took some time to get used to Opera’s new interface but if I think about speed both of these browsers are now ahead from the popular competitors Firefox and Chrome. Despite the fact that new Opera uses Chrome engine it is very fast. But dragon is good third option in my Windows 7 64bit pc.

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There is Opera 18 available… :wink:

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On my system (FX 8350 SSD) it is faster than PM and CF with no extensions (Except for ABP, and Lastpass. And It’s a Fresh Install! :slight_smile: