If so, I think they should rethink their installer. They have to make something like the “windows live installer”.
It’s a downloader, you chose what programs you want and what not. It downloads and installs them… Simple and straightforward. There should also be a choice of downloading everything immediately.
Xan
in theory couldnt you just install cis & disable the on access scanning if you already have an antivirus?
Well, yes you can but I don’t know how it fits in this topic ?
Xan
Your idea of bloat is somewhat misconstrued in this case. Bloat, when it comes to PC security software, is things like adding registry cleaners/disk cleaners etc to internet security suites - think BitDefender Total Security.
However this on its own is still not bloated. It is only bloated when there is a very significant hit on resource/CPU usage because of the unnecessary things added.
CIS is certainly not bloated. The only things being added - that I know of - are useful security technologies. And as for this:
very significant performance hit
Must be a problem on your computer, because CIS has never risen over 5k memory usage for me (both processes combined), and CPU usage has remained low, unless I’m running heavy programs.
I’m running XP Pro SP3 on a laptop with 1GB of RAM.
Regarding Bloat
I’m a clean freak. I currently use just 1 GB for Windows XP SP3 and all programs+settings, including full protecion with CIS, OpenOffice.org and PDF software, various applications including imaging/3D software, media apps and several system maintenance apps. And guess what, “bloated” is the last thing I’d call CIS, and this won’t change even with BOClean and Comodo Time Machine integrated. 
Regarding Discontinued Standalone Products
Now, about discontinued standalone products, I perfectly understand the point of people who will miss some applications - like BOClean for example. For some reason you don’t want the full CIS, instead maybe you want Online Armor, NOD32, BOClean and Comodo Memory Firewall. Thus I can understand your criticism against Comodo. However, if Comodo’s strategy is a result of efficiency in software distribution, coding and maintenance - economy in other words - I certainly don’t blame Comodo. Remember, Comodo are giving away quite a range of products for free… it looks like we can’t get everything and I’m personally fine with that since I wouldn’t want anything else than the full CIS.
And please guys, don't come with old cliché: Oh, you're getting it for free. So do I get Firefox for free. Does it come bundled with Thunderbird?No, you're getting Google which is worse 88)
I think you have a point on the installer… It’s useless to download anything you don’t need. I also have limited download/upload space :-X
Xan
OFF TOPIC DISCLAIMER!
What’s kinda kookey is how you refer to yourself as “Me myself I”. That’s quite a crowd you’ve got there. ;D
Fair point, but I don’t think it’s a cliché if this applies to the situation:
That’s my point, it may be the case that we’ll have to accept the strategy, due to financial reasons. But I don’t know, I’m strictly speculating.
In essence you’re only referring to CSC, am I right? Are there other Comodo products which you consider unnecessary? I’d be surprised if CSC was the sole financial reason for Comodo refraining from distributing separate installers for BOClean etc…
Then since I use no suites. I will remove the last comodo product from my system… bummer!
CIS is not a suite in a traditional sense.
Melih
You can choose what you install and what not… If you disable the firewall for example, you get Comodo Antivirus… I think he means that…
Xan
And if you don’t want the AV, you don’t get BOClean :-\
Greetz, Red.
Another BOClean user here for many years I guess it’s coming to the final end.
Very sad (:SAD)
TH
Bummer. The biggest issue for me (and many others I’m sure) is that I believe in a layered approach to security. I don’t trust any single vendor or group of threat researchers to be able to identify and stop every piece of malware on the web at any given time. I use Kaspersky Antivirus, SUPERAntiSpyware Pro, Windows Defender, TeaTimer, Vista Firewall Control, Comodo BoClean, Spybot’s Immunization, Spywareblaster, HostsMan, IESPYAD’s blocklist and a whole host of on-demand scanners on Vista x64 with SP1 and UAC on. It’s a paranoid approach, but it’s kept me clean for over 2 years and is surprisingly free of conflicts and light on resources. Since using BoClean individually will soon not be an option, I’ll have to remove one of my layers of security which has caught threats missed by my other protections in the past. As far as the bundled installer goes, I really don’t care, it’s your bandwidth. If you want users who are installing components selectively to download the entire installation package wasting more of your server bandwidth on larger downloads that’s fine. If I could download the entire suite and just use BoClean that would be satisfactory for me and if it installed files from the dormant components like the firewall and AV I’d just remove them manually. What bothers me is that I would have to use your AV, which I’m sorry to say does not compare with KAV or Avira for protection so off I go. Thanks for the great free products that you provide and for listening to us disgruntled users rant a bit.
I’ve been using BOClean for many years also, way before Comodo took them over and let it sit on the sidelines. I have no interest in CIS suite. The antivirus I don’t want to use, I would rather use AntiVir or Avast for free which have better detection and have been around a long time. The firewall I have no use for since it can’t even do the simplest of tasks right, such as logging. So I guess I will start looking at Malwarebytes or Superantispyware now for my malware and spyware protection. Best of luck with the suite!
The firewall I have no use for since it can't even do the simplest of tasks right, such as logging.
Which version did you use? I’ve never actually had to report any bugs or negative feedback about any Comodo products, so could you go into more detail?
Thanks :SMLR
I’ve tested many of the v2 and v3 and the logging was never addressed properly. I have not tried the latest one, but I haven’t seen any mention that the logging was ever worked on so I won’t test it anymore. It has been reported and known about for a long time. If you search on “logging”, you will find a lot of threads on it. https://forums.comodo.com/help_for_v3/logging_sucks-t22939.0.html
Well I’ve personally never had any problems with it, so I can’t really comment on that (:TNG)
I would like to see the memory firewall and Boclean continue to exist as stand-alone applications. Their set-and-forget simplicity make them ideal for even the most novice users. CIS is still rather complicated (certainly not ready for masses and it’s not ready for the most novice users). So, many users will not be able to make the switch to the more complex CIS/Boclean/CMF combo.
At work, my network has a robust (and non-intrusive) firewall and antivirus already. I have found the set-and-forget characteristics of Boclean and CMF to be invaluable for proctecting the computers of staff who are not experienced enough to deal with CIS alerts. Furthermore, I do not want to use valuable resources by using an adiditional firewall and antivirus on each computer.
Whoop