A buddy of mine found this. Now I have seen it all. OA with an exclusive post just for Matousec. Something is fishy here.
Fishy activity? No surprise to me. Seems to be alot of it lately :-TD
IMHO, no fishier than Comodo backing the www.testmypcsecurity.com website. As long as users are getting access to fair, unbiased information, I don’t really care.
Ewen
no problem there at all tbh.
questions users should be asking David is: How many times Matousec will have to apologise for incorrectly marking tests as passed:
Matousec guys had to “apologize” TWICE for publishing Online Armor on the top of the leak tests. If you remember:
1st
Enthusiasm ebbed away (2007/08/01 16:49) We have revealed that Online Armor passed some of leak-tests only because of user mode hooks that were not unhooked by FPR. In the most of cases, FPR would identify and remove the hooks but in case of Online Armor, FPR faced a code that protected these hooks against unhooking in very unusual way. Although the vendor of Online Armor assured us that the protection was not implemented with an intention to pass FPR tests, the protection has no real effect on the security of Online Armor and can be bypassed easily. We have removed the latests results of Online Armor from our tables and we will modify FPR such that it will be able to bypass the protection of user mode hooks of Online Armor. We will retest Online Armor and publish its real leak-testing results as soon as possible. [b]We apologize [/b] to all our visitors and to all competitive vendors for publishing incorrect results of Online Armor.
2nd
2008-03-25: We have received an email from ailef and MaratR with information about a security weakness in Online Armor Personal Firewall 2.1.0.112 Free that was tested in our challenge recently. We have successfully verified the information that the tested version of Online Armor automatically allows various privileged actions if it receives no response from the user in a few minutes after the alert is shown. We would like to thank ailef and MaratR for their findings, [b]we would like to apologize [/b] to our visitors and other vendors for possibly wrong results in case of Online Armor.
Is this the end of it? Or do they have to apologise yet again?
BTW: I want to re-iterate that David is a young security professional who does bring value to testing “good software”, its a shame that he has been forced into this position of having to apologize over and over!
Melih
I think it is a good idea and can help users understand what some of the Leak Testing and other things they have heard of is all about. Perhaps Melih would be willing to approach him also to do the same thing on behalf of Comodo users. Otherwise everyone will be reading the OA forum to see what happened. (:KWL)
IMHO there is nothing fishy about this…btw as goose said there are fishy things recently…and not related to tall emu or OA…
again! Melih, that’s misinformation too! Why don’t you tell the the same thing you told me?
;D
Leolas: pls tell me what aspect of my post is mis-information?
thanks
Melih
not your post… but, anyway, I don’t care anymore:
Anyway, I don't know why I'm wasting time in these threads... This (it isn't a real discussion, after all) won't change our life... It makes it worse, maybe... WinkLive, and let live, as we say in italy
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So, once again your post was misinformation claiming that my post was misinformation
Also do you not agree with what Matousec has posted? For the 2 occassion where OA was listed as passing those tests was found not to be the case.
Are you saying Matousec is providing misinformation with those corrections he has done?
Melih
The problem is not your post…
nevermind…
You are refering to Melihs post here. So what is the problem ?
Greetz, Red.
The real problem is : OA Fanboys comming here to bash Commodo That’s realy sad :-\
Greetz, Red.
Just wondering:
Did anyone ask David (Matousec) the following questions:
- Has OA ever been able to pass the tests 100%? (not that it means much to pass them 100% but lets go with the hype for the sake of the question). This is an important question because OA has it on their main site for some time the following:
LATEST NEWS!
Online Armor: The only FREE firewall with 100% leak protection out of the box.
Leolas: As a responsible human being (and an OA fanboy BTW: we welcome you with open arm, and I do mean it. ) why are you not asking them to take down this claim?
- Do all these people who were convinced by the result of these tests :Do they know the truth that actually the product they are using/bought is NOT actually passing all these tests? Is anyone informing them about potential false sense of security they might be having? If not why not? isn’t this whole thing about them - end users!
3)Will Matousec re-publish corrected results for previous versions in the interest of all the users who are still using those versions?
I hope these questions can be asked and answered in the interest of End users! If these questions don’t get the attention they deserve then one has to wonder if parties involved really care about end users!
Melih
Then what is your problem?
Josh.
Just to follow up…
The topic “Ask David Matousek” at OA Forums, Has now been closed.
Josh.
Figures…fishy for bing posted. Fishy for being shut down and removed. BTW OA doesn’t allow any negativity over at there forums. All negative posts are removed cause they don’t want newbies being scared away. Negative posts are aloud in here cause negative remarks make things better and work on bugs. ZA also doesn’t allow negative feedback. You may ask how do I know this. Try it yourself and you will see. My buddy posted something and it was removed and so did my cousin.
it’s different!
I’ve already told you the reason, but you can’t listen to anyone!
It’s only you in your life
Closed with the comment: “Ok, the idiots came out and ruined it for everyone.
This is now canceled.” Sounds like there were a few hostile questions.
Melih, I’m not a fanboy
that’s what you don’t understand
YOu should read my posts, before
But again, once more, I receive only childish (second time I tell you… maybe you should ban me… I’ve tried to be polite for too long, I think) anwers, here
I’ve written hundreds time that I always tip people to use OA or COmodo… but noone of you all red this…
I hate fanboys (watch my avatar), but I can’t stay here, watching the comments of many fanboys that are just trolling!
@Josh123
I don’t have any problem… Melih told me that I was giving misinformation, but he doesn’t tell COmodo users to don’t misinformate (don’t know if this word exist in english :-X)