AOL free Security software and Comodo .

i don’t know what realy happens with AOL , but i see they just did it before Comodo , right now AOL offers a free Antivirus based on Kaspersky . without AOL account , just free to anybody.
http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp

and if u have AOL account , u can get full protection http://daol.aol.com/safetycenter

My question is why Comodo tries to build a new antivirus if they can do like what AOL did , just get antivirus from a company like kaspersky or others , building a new antivirus is Hard and slow .
what u guys think about the AOL security products , and comodo " Comodo vs AOL’s " .
hope u guys hurry in building the full versions :wink:

Comodo’s previous anti virus offerings were a rebadging of other companies AV software. They have realised that the underlying security model of most AV software (detect and remove) misses one fundamental step - prevention. The more that is prevented from entering your PC, the less there is to detect and remove.

Comodo CAVS is going to be a real departure from the normal anti virus software design. As such, it had to be a total re-development. That is why they have chosen to write their own app, rather than continue badge engineering the flawed offerings of others.

Hope this helps,
Ewen :slight_smile:

Building a new AV software entitles you to a large base of loyal fan which will stick with your company until the day they die. If Comodo were to just offer free AV from another company, the loyalty amongst fan will be divided. ;D Hahaahah…

On a more serious note, developing a new AV software will allow Comodo to go far in this industry. Comodo’s main aim is not to provide free software for fun, but to become a company that is associated with the word ‘TRUST’. Therefore, I find it to be a logical and appropriate move for Comodo to develop its own security softwares.

Yours truly,
DoomScythe

I hope that people read the fine print in aol’s free offering.
In return for a free a/v they will be getting e-mail from advertisers and such.
IMHO its cheaper to pay kaspersky for a fine product and not deal with ads.

And a heads up in case nobody read the fine print about aol’s fine offer :slight_smile:

Ads? What ads? Haven’t got any. Only thing in that package is AOL Toolbar. I don’t get any more spam than usual. And even if i would it would most probably be from AOL, not some "buy viagra pils now! ■■■■. Otherwise they could sue them for spamming even if there is a fine print…

ya , i know that Comodo depend on the prevention as it’s more effective , but other antivirus software provide prevention as comodo do , for example , the AOL’s AV provide great prevention ( realtime scanning , e-mail scanning , …ect ) , and over that they provide great detection abilities .

i read what Melih said about putting the most power of the antivirus to prevent the virus from entering the system .

it’s not clear to me , what Comodo is doing which other companies don’t do ?

CAVS will have a HIPS system (Host Intrusion Prevention System) (well enough HIPS for AV product anyway).

Imagine this, a malware must have CPU time (eg, must get its bad bad instructions executed by going to the CPU). Well, guess what, Comodo will control that road now! :slight_smile: and the method we have implemented is: “If your name is not on the list you are not coming in” kind of approach. This means, if an executable file trying to execute that CAVS does not have in its “certified” list, it will alert the user and ask the user to submit this to the Comodo AV Lab for further research. Of course if the user is fine with this executable he/she can always say, allow and continue execution.

With this method, CAVS is giving full control of that “road to cpu” to the users. now noone can execute unless its certified or user has allowed.
It is this control of the road to the cpu-land that other AVs don’t give.
With this method if there is a new malware that noone knows, and you are the lucky one to be the one of the first pcs to kindly receive this malware, then CAVS will catch this, where other AVs most likely won’t catch it. Now thats prevention!!

Melih

It’s realy nice idea , and realy didn’t imagine that’s how comodo works .
but i’ve question , HIPS system is kinda annoying , i mean every new program , or something run in the computer he’ll ask the user if it’s not in the “certified” list , and that need the user experience .
and also there’s some malware acts like usual software and even have the same names !

Unfortunately there will always have to be a certain ‘trade off’ with any form of HIPS in regard to pop ups,the key is in finding an acceptable balance.Plus I presume there will be a way to switch off monitoring if you’re installing an application that you know to be ok,say from a respected download site such as download.com.

Also I think I read it will employ MD5 checksum verification techniques which will thwart the type of malware that is renamed as a trusted app.

Well the usability will depend on how good our certified list is. In theory if we had all the good programs in that list, then you would never receive a popup (of course in theory and you are not a developer who builds apps every second etc).

On the other hand, we will have an option when u install for the first time, we will scan to see whats not in the certifiedlist and report these to Comodo. and Comodo then will update its Certifiedlist soon after. This means as soon as you report those and comodo putting them into certifiedlist you should not receive any popups. The only time you will receive popups then is when you have a new application that is not in Comodo safelist or a new malware :slight_smile: I am hoping that the certified list will get large enough to make this a painless experience in the short-medium term for our users.

We need all our users to report to us their files that is not certified by Comodo to build the largest certified list ever!

Melih

Well this approach has worked very successfully for Prevx1 so it should be very effective here (V)