Sorry for such a late replie been busy. Thanks alot that thread helped alot :-TU just to be sure tho, i added svchost to application rules and added the rule for DNS, added the dns ips and udp 53 and also windows time and also the block rule. I was not sure what to put in the destination address so i put it to host name and added time.windows.com is this correct? ??? and also if i do set my own rules for svchost is there any global rules i would have to add/remove as i dont use file and printer shareing and also dont use PnP, DHCP, thanks.