Lusher,
First and foremost, my name is “Jim”. I use the handle “jharris1993” as a way of honoring my second wife by using our anniversary year in my handle.
Second, I appreciate your statement that I - possibly - have an open mind.
Third, You started out with a perfectly valid statement - simply giving away freeware doesn’t necessarily promote Comodo as a brand. In that, and in that alone, I am totally in agreement with you. If you go back a page or two, you will notice how I brought your idea forward, provided a couple of examples to give it relevance, and suggested to Melih that Comodo take a good hard look at this stuff.
Lastly: To be quite frank with you - and at risk of loosing your confidence in my “open mind” - I’m getting sick-and-tired of your ranting and raving about Comodo and it’s products.
(:AGY) (:AGY) (:AGY) (:AGY) (:AGY) (:AGY)
I, for one, do NOT worship the ground they work on - in fact, I’ve just finished posting a reply to a thread I started in the free e-mail cert forum where I was perhaps a bit less tactful than I should have been. However, customer service is one of my hot buttons, and when I feel I’m getting the “brush off”, I get a bit hot under the collar.
On the other hand, making the kind of totally disrespectful statemens you made - particularly the wise-[donky] comment about Melih’s command of English - is, as far as I am concerned, totally beneath the pale.
In many ways I do try to keep an open mind. This is absolutely essential in software QA. It is important to understand where the other person is coming from - to see his point-of-view, and (in the words of a famous song), “… before you accuse, criticize or abuse, walk a mile in my shoes.”
These are important steps - so that when you do make a suggestion or critique, you are in a position to make it relevant and understandable to your prospective audience.
When I do have a comment to make, I try to support it with hard, factual, evidence.
This includes, but is not limited to - steps to reproduce, solid citations or references to applicable specifications - such as the Apple Human Interface Documents, or Windows Style Guide, screen-shots, and other factual data in support of my position.
And!
You have to be ready for Comodo to disagree - after all, despite their open user fourms, these are their products! It is THEY who are the ones spending the time, effort, and development dollars to create them. If they listen to me, that’s even better, but they’re not required to.
We - their users - don’t even PAY for the friggin’ stuff!!
And yet, you seem to have taken it upon yourself as the self appointed bearer of the torch, so to speak, to not only ciriticize their products, but to make really low-■■■■ personal attacks on other people in this forum!
Constructive critiques of their products is one thing… Lowering yourself - and others - by below-the-belt personal insults is a horse of an entirely different hue. And this is where you and I part ways.
What I see you’re doing here is not constructive criticsm, but remarks intended to be insulting, inflamatory and derogatory.
I’ve been around stuff like this for years… and I’ve run BBS’s (back when they were popular), and - as a SYSOP - I had the misfortune of having to deal with people like yourself.
After repeated attempts to reform them and to induce them to behave more respectfully toward the group - I had no other choice but to ban them.
Lusher: As a fellow member of this group, I am going to “throw down the gauntlet” - and ask you to stop this ranting, raving, and whining. It’s not helping you, nor is it helping the group.
I, myself, consider these groups a valuable resource - and I darn-sure don’t want to see someone like you mess it up for everyone else.
If you cannot behave respectfully towards myself and others, then please take your ranting elsewhere.
I am going to make a proposal to the group: Agree, or disagree - aye or nay… cast your vote.
Proposal:
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As this forum - and the other forums here on the Comodo site are a potentially valuable resource for us, the users and prospective users of Comodo’s products.
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As this forum - along with the others here at Comodo’s site - have rules of engagement, as well as standards of excellence and professionalism that we the people using these forums agree to when we began using them.
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As these standards specifically prohibit deliberately defamatory or insulting remarks to be made about any other person on these forums.
I Therefore Propose:
That the user, known as “LUSHER” - if he/she is willing to be reformed by charitable teaching, and agrees to conform thereto - be allowed to continue in the use of these groups and be allowed to contribute his opinions, insofar as they agree with the proper use and rules of these forums.
However, failing the above:
If the user, known as “LUSHER” - is NOT willing to be reformed by charitable teaching, and is NOT willing to conform to the decent and orderly use of these forums;
That his access thereto be revoked in order to better preserve the orderly and decent use of these forum by those others among us who wish to use them.
Respectfully submitted,
Jim
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