Re: [merged]Chrome XY Released~can't wait for new CD! Speculations and lamentations

[G_arDian]

@Sal Amander post:147

Before Google/Mozilla came out with their rapid release schedules it was perfectly acceptable to go a month or more for security and stability updates (minor) and several months (if not years) between major releases.

Well its not then, you need to either keep up or stop making a browser that is inferior, simple as that. You chose to base it on something that is changing rapidly, if you couldn’t seriously keep up and fulfill your commitment, then you should have thought about that.

Heck, its perfectly acceptable for Microsoft to release patches one Tuesday a month and sometimes they go months without patching IE. What is with the double-standard around here?

Don’t flatter yourself, you are not in the same league as Micro$oft and although they do release once a week, they do release immediate updates under the security channel, look it up. There is no double standard, you chose to develop something, unless you are serious and want to be taken seriously as a competitive option, then you need to quit acting like you are an injured little child and put your grown up developer pants on. This isn’t some pet project, if it is then say so and we won’t care anymore because we know you have no credibility.

Just because Google and the likes perform a rapid release doesn't mean Comodo has to follow in their footsteps. It would be nice but not always entirely necessary. Please be patient as software development isn't easy or else EVERYONE would be doing it! You're more than welcome to build your own Chromium-based browser if you'd like. Please let us know how it goes if you do! (I can guarantee it won't be a walk in the park!)

You chose to develop based on their code, you must keep up or quit, simple as that. The fact is that you breaking the update functionality of the extension is VERY NECESSARY and has nothing to do with Google, YOU BROKE IT. Well if everyone could do it then what makes you special, you are saying you are not better than a 14 year old in the garage of their parents playing around with coding? You either have to keep yourself to a higher standard or quit pretending you are a serious coder and quit. It is always a sign of weak skills and lack of conviction and backbone when someone lashes out at a legitimate criticism by saying, do it yourself. So if everyone is doing it for themselves, what use are you and what need is for you to exist? So you can put out inferior products and then whine when people call you on it? If I develop one, I will open the source so that EVERYONE can contribute and I certainly wouldn’t call it the most secure cream of the rubbish* product on the planet, unless I could back it up. I never said it was a walk in the park, I have been developing for 25 years and I guarantee you that at least ONE of your daily use enterprise software was developed by me or my team, so don’t be condescending because it shows your ignorance.

P.S. Considering Comodo is HQ'd in the US, means they'd follow US Holidays and customs for the most part. There was a holiday in late November (Thanksgiving) that we here in the US observed and some companies are so nice, they give the day after Thanksgiving (Black Friday) off as well. Combine that with a weekend and you have a nice "holiday" off from work. ;)

I live in the US too, where in there are you living that you get a month and half off for holidays, ■■■■ I am getting ripped off. Must be nice to work for a company that has a 1 day = 1 month holiday schedule. And you are not HQ’d in the US, its the UK but we’ll let it go, all that holiday eggnog must be kicking in.

@megamanx post:148

As for the users that keep whinning about updates, they are too paranoid or are led to believe that their current version is really insecure, security updates aren’t that much necessary if you go to a legit site like Yahoo!, Microsoft, YouTube, etc. (I would try going a week with an older version of Chromium or Dragon and give results based on my usage, and infections if any.)

Before you say people are whining, get your facts straight. Its not about some fancy feature or lack of security. Its the fact that the extensions DO NOT UPDATE, that’s a big deal. So if you are going to lump everyone in one, then at least get it right.

@Sanya IV Litvyak post:150

I wouldn’t say that I whine for an update, but I want it to be updated because I want to be able to update my extensions.

Ditto.

@megamanx post:152

You are an exclusion. I fully understand the reason for the extensions, that’s one of the only legit reasons I see. (Bugs and issues are another, fully understandable)Other than that, the updating for the sake of keeping up with updates is a bit absurd when the browser works as should.

Well the discussion here has been since the release of v30 over a month and half ago the bugs, not features. Just because the mods merge to bury the comments that reflect badly on their product, doesn’t mean its something related to the older posts here, looking at the dates of the comments would help.

@captainsticks post:153

Just a reminder constructive criticism in a respectable manner is welcome and appreciated. The above quote is neither respectful nor constructive, please re-consider posting in this manner in the future.

It was perfectly constructive, as they had time to update the older less useful version of IceDragon (aka ■■■■■■) and not the more immediate fixing of the much needed extension updating. Just because it pokes a hole in your statement doesn’t make it rude, offensive, or not constructive.

[i]Continuous negativity will result in a shortened life span and is not pleasant for anyone. [/i]

Complete denial is also a sign of lack of character and conviction.

[Dennis2]

After repeated posts of this nature the above member has been Post banned.

[G_arDian]

@EricJH

Shouting at us is not going to help nor when you continue to aggressively broadcast your view that your favorite bugs should be fixed yesterday rather than today.

This is a business and the products are either that or just a hobby. If its a hobby then we’ll let you play in your sandbox in your timeframe but otherwise, yeah you are held to a higher standard and kept on a certain reasonable deadline. You can’t have it both ways.

Your expectations seem to be coming from your experiences as a software engineer where you have been working a lot in shielded environments where a limited set ofsystes needed to be provided. That differs from developing for consumer applications where both a variety of versions of Operating Systems need to be met as well a wide variety of hardware configurations.

You know me well enough to say I worked in shielded environments? I work on critical projects that are both time sensitive and mission critical, there is nothing shielded about that because you ■■■■■ up and the missile hits your house instead of the taliban in Afghanistan. So know what you are saying before chiming in. What have you developed? besides an overwhelming sense of self value that is not yet justified by anything.

You have not been making friends with your aggressive and defiant behaviour. They are clouding your concerns. One catches flies with syrup rather than vinegar.

Yeah I am not going to let punks browbeat me either. I am not going to kiss ■■■ and lick syrup to make you like me. If you are wrong, you are wrong, be a man and admit it rather than try to strong arm someone into your view. I am only aggressive when treated as such, no other time. So you want me to treat you to syrup than vinegar, then stop spewing your bully attitude and giving me the my way or the highway threat and treatment. You know the saying, if you have nothing to contribute shut your trap, think about it. All you do is keep picking at scabs that are healing just fine so you can make your presence known, who is the aggressive ■■■■ in there? You got my PM didn’t you, why don’t you reply there if you got something to say unless you want to keep this pissing contest up which I am game for, although I suspect you will puss out and ban me before then again. How about you see me in person and see if you are as big with your words and condemnation.

Enough said. I am done with you, in fact if there was a way to ignore you, I would but too bad you are the all power mod and can’t be shut up.

[Citizen_K]

@GµårÐïåñ post:3

This is a business and the products are either that or just a hobby. If its a hobby then we’ll let you play in your sandbox in your timeframe but otherwise, yeah you are held to a higher standard and kept on a certain reasonable deadline. You can’t have it both ways.

You are confusing forum mods with Comodo developers.

You know me well enough to say I worked in shielded environments? I work on critical projects that are both time sensitive and mission critical, there is nothing shielded about that because you ■■■■■ up and the missile hits your house instead of the taliban in Afghanistan. So know what you are saying before chiming in. What have you developed? besides an overwhelming sense of self value that is not yet justified by anything.

Again barking and insulting is not going to help neither is repeating the same argument without addressing mine. Shielded was not a right phrase here. I should have worded differently.

Yeah I am not going to let punks browbeat me either. I am not going to kiss ■■■ and lick syrup to make you like me. If you are wrong, you are wrong, be a man and admit it rather than try to strong arm someone into your view. I am only aggressive when treated as such, no other time. So you want me to treat you to syrup than vinegar, then stop spewing your bully attitude and giving me the my way or the highway threat and treatment. You know the saying, if you have nothing to contribute shut your trap, think about it. All you do is keep picking at scabs that are healing just fine so you can make your presence known, who is the aggressive ■■■■ in there? You got my PM didn't you, why don't you reply there if you got something to say unless you want to keep this pissing contest up which I am game for, although I suspect you will puss out and ban me before then again. How about you see me in person and see if you are as big with your words and condemnation.

Enough said. I am done with you, in fact if there was a way to ignore you, I would but too bad you are the all power mod and can’t be shut up.

I replied to your pm giving an insight in what response are to be expected or not not expected from Comodo staff.

Do I understand correctly you rather want us to criticize you behind the scenes in a pm where you can bark in public?