I’m seeing the same problem which will impact at least 3 installations that need to be re-installed. Mine & 2 customers, so far.
Re-installing multiple extensions for multiple customers, is not an option, when depending on sync’d data sign-in to recover their installation from file/folder damage.
I’m fending off unhappy users/customers who are using CD on my recommendation!.
I hope we don’t have to wait weeks for V30 to be updated ?
I COMPLETELY understand this and know how you feel. I have been getting some flack myself on this as well but alas I explain to them that technology is not always perfect and stuff like this happens, not much else to do besides acknowledge, apologize and fix. Just tell them that any downside is outweighed by the overall benefit, so encourage patience.
I hope we don't have to wait weeks for V30 to be updated ?
I hope not too, since I am on multiple development cycles and currently hurting me is the need to uninstall and reinstall new versions which actually hurts some of our testing. Don’t quote me on this but I do recall seeing somewhere a beta/fix version is available 30.1 somewhere but not quite sure where or how we can publicly access it, if I find out something I will let you know.
Thanks for your comments.
I was hoping someone from Comodo would give us some indication when an update might be scheduled.
It makes life easier to be able to tell customers when a solution might be expected.
Complex technology might be an explanation, but it doesn’t excuse the failure of a very important part of the updating routine. I hope airlines don’t use it for critical applications !
I’ve been dealing with buggy software :-TD for over 40 years. It still annoys me!
Non technical users don’t appreciate the complexity or a failure of this nature. sigh
Agreed, I wish we had a better idea when this problem fix is getting released.
Complex technology might be an explanation, but it doesn't excuse the failure of a very important part of the updating routine. I hope airlines don't use it for critical applications !I’ve been dealing with buggy software :-TD for over 40 years. It still annoys me!
Non technical users don’t appreciate the complexity or a failure of this nature. sigh
I hear ya, I am with you 100% and nothing excuses it really, just helps explain it, that’s all. I have been developing software of all levels of complexity for over 25 years and I have so rarely released one with a bug that when it happens, people automatically assume THEY did something wrong. I QA my stuff to death before giving it to my testers who QA them to death before they are released, so that way I know that short of releasing a new feature, I don’t have to worry about any sudden bug fixes.
Hi GµårÐïåñ,
Totally bug free software releases is not humanly possible, there are way to many system variables for this to be achieved.
Would you like to share your software?
Thanks.
That’s true of course, however, system design & the designer or coder can lapse into lazy habits !
The compiler will do 95% or more of the heavy lifting to detect coding & typing errors, undefined variables, etc, but NOT calling the wrong subroutine, failing to call a subroutine entirely, or a missing external call, etc,…it has no real intelligence to make up for poor design. Most modern compilers are smart, but not that smart & depend on their human designer, for correct & almost intelligent compilation, which a coder may depend on, to often, to do his job for him.
Not while writing in-line code based on intuition, while listening to pop music on their earphones or bloging on their Smart Phone, as many do! That work practice is fallible & will produce errors !
What is needed to achieve a better outcome is to do the system design & flowcharting before hand,…Well designed QA is also a priority,…That’s how we did it in my day ! & NOT ! left to the user to debug.
Maybe I’m old fashioned ?
Yes it is. You are welcome to contact the US Depart of Defense and make a request for them. They are deployed currently on battleships, AFB towers, and missile guidance chips. I am sure China can sell you a stolen copy of the code. And my civilian contributions are proprietary and not mine to share, fortune 500 companies have paid for the code to be exclusive. I stopped publishing freeware as of 2000 because I just didn’t have any more time.
Anything is possible if you care enough to do it right. As I said, once you know the function you expect and the resources you are working with, its a matter of covering the possibilities and testing is a big part of it. I didn’t say all code is perfect, that is just an absurd assumption on your part, I said that “I” (not accounting the rare fringe cases) released perfect code. Are we trying to turn this into a mountain too?
Ditto. There was a time that programmers had to deal with structured code which made for very disciplined coders, nowadays the blame for lazy/bad habits are being blamed on OOP and the size of the code and the moving parts. If programmers wrote in assembly more, they would understand the need for paying attention to details even when using higher level languages that allow you to use compilers and debuggers to check the code for them. We are in the generation of lazy programmers who don’t know how the frameworks they are using by simply calling a function were originally established back when there were no pre-written functions, we to create them, so we understood what they are doing and how they are working. Not, just having a drop down list and going, ooh that looks like what I am trying to do, let’s see what parameters it needs and hoping for the best. The disadvantages of point-and-click programming coders graduating today.
Hi GµårÐïåñ,
I do believe some things are possible.
I don’t believe anything or everything is possible, my naivety left me years ago.
No I am not turning anything into a mountain, I am having an opinion.
Now this is a community Forum for users using publicly released software, not some program coded for a specific system or specific group of systems.
I had no ‘absurd assumptions’ where I said that you said “all code is perfect”, I did say “Totally bug free software releases is not humanly possible, there are way to many system variables for this to be achieved.”
Which is true for publicly released software, which is what I would have presumed the conversation to be about considering the fact of its posted location.
Considering this is in the bug reports for Dragon section, I consider this topic to be running off topic.
Can we please stay on topic and any further discussion about this subject to be done via PM if at all necessary.
One other thing, why would the above quote be true?
Probably best not to answer that as racism and discussion about illegal activities/software are both against the Forum Policy
Thank you from Captainsticks.
There seems to be a double standard about who has a right to an opinion and who doesn’t, seems the right is exclusive to moderators at the moment.
Now this is a community Forum for users using publicly released software, not some program coded for a specific system or specific group of systems.
Incorrect, it is a BROWSER therefore specific functionality, the size of the code and the fact that you are leeching off the open source work of others does present a problem since you may not understand their code as well as one would hope or you just don’t care to do it right since you can always level blame elsewhere but none the less you are putting your name on it, you are responsible for it. Simple as that. If the code was opened to the public in a repository where people can audit the code and provide review and bug fixes, then you have a small right to this attitude but when YOUR code is closed and exclusively developed without public review, then you really don’t get to play that card.
I had no 'absurd assumptions' where I said that you said "all code is perfect", I did say [i]"Totally bug free software releases is not humanly possible, there are way to many system variables for this to be achieved." [/i]Which is true for publicly released software, which is what I would have presumed the conversation to be about considering the fact of its posted location.
You absolutely did because you are quoting something that was never said. You are making something up out of thin air which I NEVER said and using it as a foundation to start something for the sake of making your existence known. And I did also say that MY code was solid, I never said ALL CODE is and never claimed there is bug free software releases, your claims to the contrary are just manufactured fiction.
Considering this is in the bug reports for Dragon section, I consider this topic to be running off topic.
Yes, you have managed to hijack the conversation and turn into something it was not intended, thank you for that. So maybe you can crawl back in the shadows, reserve your unnecessary and irrelevant opinions, so we can stay on topic.
Can we please stay on topic and any further discussion about this subject to be done via PM if at all necessary.
Sure, go away and if you have something to say drop me a PM.
One other thing, why would the above quote be true?
I don’t know that it is, just saying that given how much our government accuses China of espionage, then maybe they have a copy. Since my targeting system suddenly showed up in their recent unveiled drones, I figured they might have other things too.
Probably best not to answer that as racism and discussion about illegal activities/software are both against the [url=https://forums.comodo.com/new-member-information/forum-policy-updated-on-october-8-2011-t1516.0.html]Forum Policy[/url]
Don’t ask what you don’t want to hear the answer to. What I said was in jest, but you are turning it into “racism” and “illegal activity” you really need a lesson in reading comprehension and context. Stop quoting the FORUM POLICY, you and other mods are among the biggest violators of it and run this place like the gestapo. And before you mess your pants going crazy over that word, its used as in Xerox is a copy, not that you are a ■■■■.
Incorrect, everyone is entitled to there own opinion as long as the T & Cs of the Forum policy are followed.
Incorrect, it is a BROWSER therefore specific functionality, the size of the code and the fact that you are leeching off the open source work of others does present a problem since you may not understand their code as well as one would hope or you just don't care to do it right since you can always level blame elsewhere but none the less you are putting your name on it, you are responsible for it. Simple as that. If the code was opened to the public in a repository where people can audit the code and provide review and bug fixes, then you have a small right to this attitude but when YOUR code is closed and exclusively developed without public review, then you really don't get to play that card.I was not talking about a specific program, I was talking about a specific system arrangement. BTW: It is not my code, I have not put my name on it. I am a general member like yourself that just happens to volunteer my time to help the Forum run smoothly.
You absolutely did because you are quoting something that was never said. You are making something up out of thin air which I NEVER said and using it as a foundation to start something for the sake of making your existence known. And I did also say that MY code was solid, I never said ALL CODE is and never claimed there is bug free software releases, your claims to the contrary are just manufactured fiction.Your words "Anything is possible if you care enough to do it right." Anything means everything is achievable at some point in time and I did not say 'all' at one time.
Yes, you have managed to hijack the conversation and turn into something it was not intended, thank you for that. So maybe you can crawl back in the shadows, reserve your unnecessary and irrelevant opinions, so we can stay on topic.You did that yourself with the following quote, all I done was respond. I will not be crawling for you or anyone.
[i]I hear ya, I am with you 100% and nothing excuses it really, just helps explain it, that's all. I have been developing software of all levels of complexity for over 25 years and I have so rarely released one with a bug that when it happens, people automatically assume THEY did something wrong. I QA my stuff to death before giving it to my testers who QA them to death before they are released, so that way I know that short of releasing a new feature, I don't have to worry about any sudden bug fixes.[/i]
Sure, go away and if you have something to say drop me a PM.No thank you.
I don't know that it is, just saying that given how much our government accuses China of espionage, then maybe they have a copy. Since my targeting system suddenly showed up in their recent unveiled drones, I figured they might have other things too. Don't ask what you don't want to hear the answer to. What I said was in jest, but you are turning it into "racism" and "illegal activity" you really need a lesson in reading comprehension and context.Simple, don't say what you don't mean. I need no lessons, unlike some do require lessons in politeness.
Stop quoting the FORUM POLICY, you and other mods are among the biggest violators of it and run this place like the gestapo. And before you mess your pants going crazy over that word, its used as in Xerox is a copy, not that you are a ■■■■.I will not stop quoting the Forum policy when I see a need for it to be quoted. I smell a hint of racism again.
Once again please do not respond to this post and as of now I am calling for a Moderators review on your actions.
Any action taken from this point will be out of my control.
How to appeal against Moderators decisions
Thank you from Captainsticks.