M$ in the news again (and again, etc..)

Found this little article about the new and wonderful Vista. Not my words but noteworthy nonetheless.


Microsoft admits Vista failure

Actions speak louder than PR

By Charlie Demerjian in Beijing: Saturday 21 April 2007, 12:20

WITH TWO OVERLAPPING events, Microsoft admitted what we have been saying all along, Vista, aka Windows Me Two (Me II), is a joke that no one wants.
It did two unprecedented things this week that frankly stunned us.

Dell announced that it would be offering XP again on home PCs. The second that Vista came out, Microsoft makes it very hard for you to sell anything other than Me II. It can’t do this on the business side because it would be laughed out the door, but for the walking sheep class, well, you take what you are shovelled.

This is classic abusive monopoly behavior, Microsoft wrote the modern book on it. It pulled all the major OEMs in by twisting their arms with the usual methods, and they again all fell into line. Never before has anyone backpedalled on this, to do so would earn you the wrath of Microsoft.

But Dell just did. This means that Me II sales are at least as bad as we think, the software and driver situation is just as miserable, and Dell had no choice but to buck the trend. If anyone thinks this is an act of atonement for foisting such a steaming pile on us, think again, it doesn’t care about the consumer.

What happened is the OEMs revolted in the background and forced Microsoft’s hand. This is a big neon sign above Me II saying ‘FAILURE’. Blink blink blink. OK, Me II won’t fail, Microsoft has OEMs whipped and threatened into a corner, it will sell, but you can almost hear the defectors marching toward Linux. This is a watershed.

The other equally monumental Me II failure? Gates in China launching a $3 version of bundled Me II. Why is this not altruism? Well, it goes back to piracy and how it helped enforce the MS monopoly. If you can easily pirate Windows, Linux has no price advantage, they both cost zero.

With Me II, Microsoft made it very hard to pirate. It is do-able, you can use the BIOS hack and probably a host of others, but the point is, it raised the bar enough so lots of people have to buy it. Want to bet that in a country with $100 average monthly salary, people aren’t going to shell out $299 for Me II Broken Edition?

What did MS do? It dropped the price about 100x or so. I can’t say this is unprecedented, when it made Office 2003 hard to pirate it had to backpedal with the student edition for about $150. This time though, things are much more desperate.

If you fit Microsoft’s somewhat convoluted definition of poor, it still wants to lock you in, you might get rich enough to afford the full-priced stuff someday. It is at a dangerous crossroads, if its software bumps up the price of a computer by 100 per cent, people might look to alternatives.

That means no Me II DRM infection lock in, no mass migration to the newer Office obfuscated and patented file formats, and worse yet, people might utter the W word. Yes, you guessed it, ‘why’. People might ask why it is sticking with the MS lock in, and at that point, it is in deep trouble.

So, it did the unthinkable, and dropped the price. I won’t bother to hunt down all the exec quotes saying how people can’t afford clean water would be overjoyed to sell kidneys to upgrade to the new version of Office, but they are out there. This was a sacred cow, and it is now hamburger backed up against the wall.

These two actions by Microsoft are proof of what I suggested three years ago. Microsoft has lost its ability to twist arms, and now it is going to die. It can’t compete on level ground, so is left with backpedalling and discounts of almost 100 times.

What we are seeing is an unprecedented shift of power. It is also an unprecedented admission of failure. And the funniest part about the moves made? They are the wrong things to do. Microsoft is in deep trouble. µ



$3 in China?
Here in Australia, they want AUS$749 for the ultimate edition ???
Which is why I’m not in any hurry to “upgrade”, I only got xp 6 months ago…

It’s coming down to the moral of the old biblical story of David verses Goliath the Giant. In the modern computer related version of this tale David is the freeware developer and Goliath is Micro$oft the greedy, well armed giant that cannot be beaten. As you probably know David killed Goliath using a small stone he picked up and hurled from his homemade slingshot.

The small stones I use in ‘real time’ battle are Comodo, AntiVir, Spyware Terminator. They all work together nicely to cover the damage Micro$oft has caused by selling it’s under-developed and hastily rushed to market OS. These freeware stones have cost nothing and have proven themselves to arm me quite nicely against Goliath’s …er… Micro$oft’s unsecure products.

It is only a matter of time until most of us end up jumping to another OS because Micro$oft is overbearing, greedy, and obviously not capable of keeping its self secure.

Just my 2c worth.

You’re correct - I have a nice, new, shiny CD with a Feisty Fawn on it and jsut need to decide if I want a new pet.
I suppose lizards don’t like fawns :frowning:


Seems they are having quite a bit of trouble with the wireless/network drivers in Feisty. I am using Edgy in a dual boot but decided to wait for Ubuntu to get things fixed before I switch over.


Not on a network - seems a bit futile with only 1 computer.

Might just put Ubuntu on a spare HD, so that I can do some learning.


If there was an easy-to-use (ie, no re-learning required) Linux Distro that would automatically run any Windows application, with some decent marketing I think MS would suffer a serious ■■■■.

Unfortunately (AFAIK), there isn’t one, and there are too many applications that folks wouldn’t want to lose access to, that just wouldn’t work in Linux. Thus, they’re “stuck” with Windows.

Shoot, if my stuff would work, I’d switch (at least at home). But I don’t want to have to rebuild my applications from the ground up with new things and have to relearn it all… (too lazy, not enough time, etc).

But of course, I don’t use Vista (too cheap, not enough money, etc); I have XP and will be sticking with that for the near foreseeable future.


Thing is, you’re looking for a windows app. What kind of program do you need?

I agree. I don’t think we are going to get a ‘Linux Miracle’ dropped from Heaven that will run all the Microsoft OS developed programs, but I don’t think we have to necessarily loose everything either. After all it is possible to keep an XP machine sitting there with all our current programs installed. Many of them do not have to access the web to be used effectively. We just would not be putting the XP machine on-line because it is too threatened by the environment - otherwise perfectly fine. And when MS stops supporting XP we won’t be able to use it on the Net at all due to lack of security patches etc.

So, I can see myself eventually with a strictly Linux machine that accesses the web and does little more initally. Over time one will collect open-source free-ware programs to install. After all Linux itself is open source. I tend to think utilities will be developed where necessary to convert MS written data to Linux where required. Probably already exists. And the learning curve shouldn’t be that hard. Conversion doesn’t have to be done overnight unless one waits until the 11th hour to take action. A desktop is a desktop is a desktop… but I haven’t tried Linux yet have I? Smile.

I intend to ride XP till she is just about ready to go under or until I have an up and running Linux system, which ever comes first. And the mess of things MS has already made in developing, marketing and supporting VISTA almost ensures XP will be alive and well for quite some time to come. Lots of time to prepare. In fact I am hearing Dell is up MS’s pant legs now wanting to put XP on new sales because XP is what Dell customers are wanting.

Hasta La Vista Vista!

This is the real question:

If you’re looking for “MS Office”, you won’t find that. You have alternatives in so called “Linux” (Linux actually is the kernel, a very small part of the OS, although critical).

Even Office, i think you can run that one under Wine- http://www.winehq.com/. If you really need it, that is…

For MS office, that should be pretty well taken care of by OpenOffice, as that should work on a Linux system. My personal problem is that any time I hear the word “porting” (which always seems to come up when talking about Linux), I typically think one of two things:

  1. Oh, that’s gonna be lot of work (that I don’t even really know what it is, much less how to do)
  2. It’s probably not gonna work right, and I’ll have to use Windows anyway, for the sake of functionality

I realize those are probably just “fear” reactions, but there you go. As you say, Open Circuit, at some point they’ll discontinue XP so we’ll either have to buy up or buy out…

I already lost some functionality of applications when moving from 98SE to XP, and I fully expect a transition from XP to Linux to be even more so. Perhaps, though, I’m over-reacting…


Hey LM:
Well the whole thing boggles the mind. I can’t seem to recall anywhere near the “hassle” or “whoopla” when XP was intoduced.( I mean like all the security issues).
And given that there are, what I and many others would consider, “major” set backs in an OS… possibly, we will be with XP longer then we think ;D
then again…maybe not. (:KWL)

I invite you guys installing VirtualBox, creating a VM for Linux 2.6 kernel, and installing Debian netinstall (the smallest CD, it downloads the aditional packages you ask for). Debian is a “harder” one. Ubuntu is based on Debian, and is more auto, like Windows.

You will see, if the program you want is in the repository, it’s easier to install and configure than on Windows, and they run smoother.

Very easy task, you don’t leave windows, nor mess with dual boots.