So… you are sure that there isn’t any monsters under the bed? :-\ Really sure…?! :o
Ok, I won’t check tonight… promise… :
There are monsters under the bed?? :o Thanks Paul now I’ll have to sleep with a flashlight from now on! (:SAD)
I have noticed alot of programs that you download for free that were origanally spyware free are now being bundled with ■■■■. IE. NERO 6 (Yahoo Toolbar).
But i am not bothered because it is clearly stated that you have the option not to install it, and that is good enough for me, as long as comodo clearly state that the program you are downloading has *Other (Programs other then the one advertised for the download of the setup file) then their is no problem. Programs that have 1000 page EULA’s that have 2 lines hidden in their telling the user of the fact are NOT LEGIT, as it is not obvious.
cheers, rotty
Hey rotty,
Have a look at https://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,2217.0.html for more info on Trust Toolbar.
cya
ewen
Hey, we all have our vices. You sleep with flashlights, I sleep with the TV on, Justin,Mike,Melih,Aowl, all sleep with…bunnies??? :o
Cheers,
Paul
Notice how every one of those software corps that lists the trust toolbar as “spyware” has atleast one competing product to the free comodo software to “sell” you.
If they can’t win on their own merit, it’s time to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainity, Doubt) about the competition.
Companies that use this kind of tactics are unlikely to get hold of my money. Ever. And I recommend companies I get hired in as a consultant for to avoid such software like the plague.
//Svein
Hi svein,
good note and good practice!
But there also should be noted the following:
The type of tools like Comodo’s Trusttoolbar is a new software cathegory. This cathegory can be marked up by some characteristics:
- The software gathers some local informations. (like the current weblink I try to connect to)
- This information will be evaluated “life” by requesting an external database outside of the
control radius of the user. Typically the gathered information will be sent to a webservice,
which will respond a qualified answer. (For example insert a ne CD in your computer. When
playing it winamp the shown playlist comes from the internet, because the prog has sent the
CD-ID to such a database. That database responded by sending the title list of this CD.)
Important is the fact, that automatically a foreign (from the sight of the user) database will
receive some private informations.
Unfortunatelly there are many tools out there, giving you a nice gimmick but installing also a background tool to gather valuable informations like personalized email addresses for spammers or phishing for your bank account details for an elecronic bank robbery or just getting a link to your real life identity and collecting more and more your user-behavour. That’s the most valuable info out there in the internet. (count your daily spams and cathegorize the themes of the ad-banners displayed to you)
So without having the detailed knowledge about the informations sent in such a case, combined with a good privacy policy, you always should be very suspicious. Your data is always linked to your IP and a programm running locally typically has the local rights you’re logged in with. That’s a really high trust level you give to such a program.
Having this sight one can understand that some spyware-guys might say: Software that do send out private informations without further notice might be spyware. So there is also a task to the programmers of such a (possibly very usefull) software, to
- exacty define which information will be sent
- make this veryfiable (by publishing the protocol / sending the infos in human readable form /
giving a monitor-window and/or logfile / etc. etc. …) - giving a simple (!) switch to the user to stop and start the service easily.
- showing up, which dependencies are between the programmers entity and the database-
providers entity. (is it a 3rd party DB or a DB of programmers company) - giving the direct oporunity to see the privacy policies the database provider.
- and many other ideas to give real transparency to the final user.
Like this, an exculpation from the charge of spyware should be easy. Why not starting the global policy to send such informations over a dedicated standardized port (for example 8082) in standard XML format? I think, for a free software, giving this option giving this worldwide example would be a great step (with surely a great promo 
)
Nevertheless I hope, these spyware-tool threatening Trusttoolbar will stay consistent and also threaten the phishing practise of Windows Vista’s new “AntiPhishingService”. The “Tree-Step-Trustaproovment” will always contact an external DB to check, wether a weblink is banned by the “phishing-site”-flag.
Or they have to stop it at all !!!
so long. Hope it helps…
CU,
-do-
Why can I not install Trusttoolbar. Is it a Spyware? I have tryed any times and it not apear as a toolbar.
Hi,
‘Is it Spyware’…please read this topic from the start.
And in order to understand the issue we will need to know what you are trying to install the toolbar on, which browser and version, OS etc.
Garry
This says it is but I trust in melih’s word so,
:THNK I wonder why it says that