I'm totally confused, need some help

Hello everyone,

I’musing Comodo version 3 and it seems that I am spending my whole time clicking on the firewall program control popups. When I install a new program I expect to have to say to allow or block but it seems that I have to click “trusted app” many times on the install and then after the program is installed I still get the popups on some programs.

Also sometime when I run a program that I already allowed the program I still get the installation mode request when running the program.

Is there a easy way to brouse my programs and set them to allow so that I don’t have to waste my time clicking these popups ???

Hello e_a_g_l_e_p_i.

First of all, When installing something, And you get the Alert to run the installer Make sure you “Treat this application as Installer/Updater” That way CFP 3 asks you to switch to installation mode (You allow it off course!), and you will get no pop ups during installation. Eventually it will ask you to switch back to previous mode after installing the app and you click Yes.

Go to the following to edit your policies for your programs:

Firewall\Advanced\Network Security Policy
Defense+\Advanced\Computer Security Policy


Thanks Josh,

When I edit these settings what should they be set to, I assume “trusted app” I see that many of the apps are set to custom in the firewall. is there any rule of thumb ??

Thanks again


Network Security Polices:

P2P Programs (Utorrent, Limewire, etc) Should be “Outgoing Only”
Web Browsers (Opera, Firefox, IE,) should be “Web Browser”
Email Clients (Obviously Set to Email Client).

Also make svchost.exe outgoing only. The rest of your other apps should be Trusted.

Then in Computer Security Policy all your KNOWN TRUSTED apps there should be “Trusted Application”. But please make sure your apps on your PC are safe ones. :wink: Don’t run stuff you don’t know. :wink:


A few more question to help clearify

can you please explain the difference between "Network Security Policy"under the firewall menu and “Computer Security Policy” in the Defence menu. My guess is the “Network Security Policy” controls internet access and “Computer Security Policy” covers programs on my computer…lol I actually figured this out while typing it but confirmation would help.

Also, In the “Network Security Policy” it lists all my apps but in the “Computer Security Policy” it lists all the apps and then at the towards the bottom of the list it has “All applications” again what is the difference between the applications listed under “Application Name” and “All Applications”

And last

How do I tell if the item listed is the install files compared to the actual program files?

Thanks again

-Network Security Policy - Controls “Firewall” Alerts for programs (So yes Network).
-Computer Security Policy - Does everything else besides Network. So you’re on track.

lol… There is no difference. Go to the Computer Security Policy Window, click on an app and drag it down to all applications. There is no difference It’s just that’s how it’s sorted when you deal with Alerts, etc. Same with Network Security Policy too.


:frowning: i have this problem too. i have tried all of the above & it continues to ask & ask & ask & ask & ask the same things over & over. i lovet his thing otherwise, but this could send me back to zonealarm.

Can you be more specific? Are you installing something? Are the alerts for the firewall or D+? Ask,Ask,Ask doesnt tells us anything. Zone Alarm is a joke and cannot provide you any protection.

I think drkelp is saying is when he sets the app to trusted he gets a pop up again about the app that he just set to trusted. i have dealt with this to in that case i just let it revert back to custom as that is what it is doing anyhow. you can confirm this after you click apply and allow again. that is why now after i re did my firewall i left those apps as custom as for ones you are done clicking all its processes it will stay custom and not bug you again. but ones you change it back to trusted it will ask again and revert back anyhow.

Certain programs will go back to custom even after you make them trusted under D+. This is normal Comodo behavior. There is a thread about it and a modder informed the poster of this.

Yes certain apps will go back to custom and it is normal. Apps have things, etc.


This might be a slightly different question but I still think it relates to the original post:

I really like the HIPS/Defence+ concept. There’s a program monitoring everything going on and it alerts me when potentially bad things are about to happen. Theoretically, malware should never be able to gain access to my system with this approach.

However, I think that the technical nature of some of the alerts might discourage users to respond wisely because: a) the alerts are sometimes quite difficult to understand and b) there’s risk of “information overload”, making people reason like “yeah, yeah, whatever, go ahead with what you’re trying to do, as long as I get notepad running”.

For example: if I try to run a semi-trustworthy program, one which I just installed and am not very familiar with but think is safe, I might get an alert from Defence+ asking if I’d like to allow a “WinEvent hook” or “Interprocess Memory Access”, and so on. There’s a description of various kinds of activities in the helpfile, but it only goes so far. How do I really know for a fact that a program needs to access a “protected COM interface” in order for it to function properly? Well, I don’t anyway. My approach is usually allowing the different kinds of requests because I “think it’s kinda’ safe”.

I know you could object to this by saying that I could lower the safety level or amount of alerts. That’s true of course, but at the same time isn’t the whole idea with HIPS to be quite detailed? Personally I don’t have a problem with the second point I made, information overload; I have a good look at every alert and try to make educated guesses. I don’t want to get rid of the alerts or lower my level of safety: I want to learn!

So what I’m asking for is some kind of tutorial (didn’t find one in the FAQs) that explain in more detail the terms used in CFP3’s documentation (starting on page 126). Some are quite straight forward (e.g. process terminators), but others are more enigmatic (e.g. WinEvent hooks, physical memory and so on). I can certainly understand the explanations given in the documentation, but I can’t really decide “in real life” when it’s safe to allow certain activities. So I guess I would like to see examples of when “interprocess memory access” and all the other stuff is legitimate.

I think such a turotial would really help us less tech-savvy folks to make better decisions when alerted by CFP.

Sandboxing into CFP 3 (Due after CIS launch) - Will be useful for people like you! :slight_smile:

It’s like visualization, What comes in to the sandbox wont be alerted for, So further reducing Alerts. We also have ThreatCast where people have there views, etc on Alerts (Eg 50 people say yes, 1 say No). Anyway Sandboxing looks very interesting! And hopefully in next 12 months in 2009, Melih (CEO) Believes he cant deliver a “set & forgot product” Without reducing Security!