As a paid user of BoClean for many years may I ask this question.It just runs but has never caught anything.Is it really needed?
BOClean has always specialised as a backup to any AV you have. We have seen this to be the case few times already
https://forums.comodo.com/comodo_boclean_antimalware/comodo_boclean_saved_my_day_even_though_i_had_an_av_installed-t8376.0.html
people who had AV installed already, had malware as their AV failed to pick it up. The problem is there is no 100% detection, there can never be 100% detection. Boclean tries to specialise on those hard to find nasties. Not everybody will get malware though. which is good. But like insurance, you keep paying monthly and one day it might come handy and the hassle of not having that insurance in place is just not worth it. The cost of running and the cost of owning Boclean is so amazingly low, its almost silly not to have it protecting you. And latetly, thanks to Comodo’s resources, they are creating even more signatures for more malware.
Hope this answers your question.
Melih
I agree with insurance,for sure now that it is free but to use computer resources that are not needed,however light seems a waste.If you know how to protect computers correctly,less is more.Do you agree?
very good question: so how do you protect your computer?
could i please invite you to read the above that i have written before you answer 
thanks
Melih
I use to agree with both your links but now I test everything.Not sig based but go to the worst sites you can on test rigs to check what works.I change the code if needed and it works very well for my many computers.You give away fine programs to everyday users which I commend you for but if not needed, well not needed by all, why have them, agree?
tell me what we need?
tell me how we should protect our PCs?
(The reason why I ask this is because, unless we know what we need, we won’t know what we don’t need).
Melih
Melih,nothing in my world is for free,unlike yours.Your company does a very good job protecting the everyday user and please keep it up.I full well understand EULA’s but when some people try to ■■■■■ me then I feel they threw the EULA out the window,not your company mind you but some others.Then I feel reverse e is OK.
Pugmug
Nothing is for free! In return we ask our users to know who Comodo is and Trust us. So there is a transaction of some sort! When people give you free pens, they do it for a reason, pretty similar to our reasoning.
Getting back to the question you asked: (you still haven’t answered my questions which hopefully will lead to an answer to your question).
tell me what we need?
tell me how we should protect our PCs?
(The reason why I ask this is because, unless we know what we need, we won’t know what we don’t need).
thanks
Melih
I also am a paying customer. After the first time BOClean caught a nasty it scared the $%&$ out of me. But I also noticed that the others,Norton…McAfee never seen a thing. So I would never be without it! It sits in my tray,and I never notice it untill it barcks.Then you will never ask that question again. :■■■■ :■■■■
Well, as it haven’t catched anything in a while, I suppose you have a very good defence. So do you need it? Yes! A modern car has ABS brakes, anti skid system, it sometimes even has collision warning system, panic brake assistant, blind spot warning / lane change warning… All that is available to avoid the accident. But if something goes terribly wrong, would you drive this car without airbags and whiplash protected seats? I wouldn’t!
/LA
I like your analogy, Leo. But at the same time, if all you do with your car is drive around your backyard instead of the bad neighbourhood, the chances of encountering an accident is much lower. The probability game is based primarily on the user’s attentiveness, usage habits, experience, knowledge, peace of mind.
That’s all correct. It’s the other side of computer security; the human side. We’ve discussed it several times. This time I just wanted to point out the strictly technical aspects of security philosophy! (I was proud of the analogy ;))
/LA
Even though in general I agree with your statement Soya, however in the online world the line between safe and not safe is so very blurred, its difficult to say you can be safe and be connected to Internet. I mean look at drive by download attacks, they attack you thru banners. So you could be reading an article on IT related website, and the banner they might be displaying could be poisened and do a DbD attack on you. However, I do agree that in general being alert does pay off. But still though in order to answer Pugmug’s question Pugmug has to help us identify the answers to my questions.
thanks
Melih
It’s true the internet can be the “unknown neighbourhood”. That’s why I have Opera set up to block all banners, but that’s another story ;D. I’ll keep :-X now.
That’s not really a question that anybody but you can answer… as it’s a personal preference / decision.
In my view, it’s not needed, it hasn’t detected anything that my AV has missed, and I really hope that it never does.
My AV has itself never detected any virus’s, in 18 months. Does that then show that I do not need an AV?
Personally, I value the potential benefit of boclean, more than I value the meagre resources that boclean uses, much as I value the potential benefit of my AV. (remember that my AV has found / stopped nothing, so there has been no actual benefit from running it.)
Personally, I value the potential benefit of boclean, more than I value the meagre resources that boclean uses, much as I value the potential benefit of my AV.
Agree with qwerty on this one.
Unless you only connect to the internet to talk on this forum, then I guess you would be safe without any protection.
However whenever you surf the net you are likely to come across dubious sites just by accident (don’t tell me there is even one person on here who has not done that in the past, however careful they are).
Even Google is getting a bad name now, as many of the sites that appear when searching are places you would just not want to go!
Not sure what they can do about it other than scan every site that pops up in the search results; hardly practical unless someone knows differently.
I think having AV, AS and BOClean, even if it finds nothing, at least gives you a little more ‘peace of mind’ when surfing.
I always remember a test my son did with a cleanly installed computer many years ago. (He was in charge of hundreds for a large company). He connected this computer to the internet with no firewall or anti-virus (that’s all) and waited. Within a few seconds the machine was infected and within a couple of minutes it crashed completely.
What amazes me is how many people are connected to the internet with just a Firewall and no other protection at all.
Mike.
Have to agree with pugmug, have wondered the same thing for years. Bought Boclean in August 01, except for updating the version periodically, it just sat in my system tray silent.
It’s never caught anything, but it’s become part of the furniture. I await the day it will spring into action, no doubt scare the cr*p out of me after all these years.
regards
But do you look upon this from a negative or positive point of view? Do you feel it’s unneeded, or do you feel the potential of it?
That’s incredible, I wonder if this was a typical case which could have happened any computer in the world, or if it was more exposed than normal.
What amazes me is the opposite, all those people who go with the XP firewall (= no firewall), and an antivirus program. With Melih’s analogy of layered defence, that’s like having the doors and windows (Windows ;)) open, and just wait for the alarm (or watchman/dog) to react… But I think it (only) makes sense to just have CPF if you are a “professional” in being careful, and use a totally secured web browser, and never accept any kinds of files from anyone. Personally I will never be able to consider myself as that professional (I’m learning from this forum but new threats come up all the time), so I’ll continue with the backup of BOClean, if anything gets in (more correct: if I let anything in, CPF won’t let anything in).
/LA
That’s incredible, I wonder if this was a typical case which could have happened any computer in the world, or if it was more exposed than normal.
No, it was a standard machine just hooked up to the internet, nothing special and not overexposed.
This was several years ago, I guess the situation would be worse now.
Just check your CFW Activity Log, about 20 logged attacks (if they are actually attacks; a lot are from the same IP address) in the last half hour here!
But do you look upon this from a negative or positive point of view? Do you feel it's unneeded, or do you feel the potential of it?
Rather negative I am afraid. Have had my share of trojans keyloggers etc, nothing drastic. But Boclean remained silent. Picked up by spysweeper, when I used it, a-squared now I don’t.
When I say it hasn’t moved it did once, some three years ago, a bad FP. Nancy fixed it straight away. I keep it more for a layered defense.