which av is better i love cis but should i use avast
Neither! Panda Cloud AV (Free) has a higher detection rate. (97%)
It would be fine to make a comparative…of comparative tests themselves as no one says the same thing.
Even if assumed these tests are fair, aren’t they biased from multiple factors (testing methods, running os and software…)?
I’m using G Data along with CIS ;D
I test AV’s against all kinds of malware and I also use Virus Total (virustotal.com) and I see which of the 42 AV’s on VT have the best detection rates when running malware through the AV scanners on that website. Top 3 paid are Symantec, F-Secure, & Sophos. Top 3 free are AVG, Avast, Avira. Sophos and Symantec detect more than any of the others. Prevx is also very good.
There have been test done on Remove-Malware.com, C-Net, etc. on Panda Cloud and the results were very good in those test. Remove Malware has a link to YouTube and you can watch malware test video on several AV’s and CIS v4 is even on there, Click the blue link button on this post and it will take you to Remove-Malware and click on anti-virus reviews and you will find the link to YouTube.
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I test AV's
Your personnal tests are yours, and as such as subjective as mine could be.
I also use Virus Total (virustotal.com) and I see which of the 42 AV's on VT have the best detection rates when running malware through the AV scanners on that website
“In vitro” tests, no one can transpose them to a real situation.
There have been test done on Remove-Malware.com, C-Net, etc. on Panda Cloud and the results were very good in those test. Remove Malware has a link to YouTubeYour site, your tests, your video? I am sorry, no one shall ever make me click on a youtube link and video, and it does not in anyway scientifically prove anything.
You are also saying that both Symantec and AVG are the “top” paid/free in the same time you say that Panda Cloud is “very good”: i don’t like Avast, but why then disadvocate it in second position from your own sayings?
You did not answer my observation, and even assuming that such a thing as the “best firewall” on a single criterium (detection rate) should exist, you do not bring any objective and consensual independant arguments to your statement, for the very simple reason that, at my knowledge, no such thing exists:
there’s no, at the day speaking, consensus from independent security websites as which is the “best firewall” even on that single criterium, but only extrapolations from some finite testings using some number of “in vitro” malwares in peculiar software, hardware and software installations.
Shortly speaking, nothing of which a definitive conclusion can be made once excluded some bias, probably only leaving, from that consensus, “very good”, “good”, “average” or “bad” groups of firewalls, making no sense of trying in these conditions to take advantage of scores that would be, say, in a 1 or 2% or even larger range.
My personal test as you call them are for a AV ratings panel that publishes this info.
I said Symantec and AVG where in the top 3 in their category. Panda Cloud is not used on Virus Totals list there paid version is listed there. Panda Cloud has a better detection rate in my opinion than Panda paid version. I also said Prevx was very good also.
See this is your opinion about Avast, there are thousands of people who really like this AV product,
As for the rest of your remarks and ramblings…No one is going to agree on everything and that holds true for Anti-Viruses, Firewall’s, Computers. etc. Comodo’s Firewall is rated number 1 by Matousec at present but you will find just as many people who will disagree with these findings because the test was done only on Windows XP Service Pack 3 Platform or Windows Server Platform.
It’s like the title of the old TV Show “Different Strokes for Different Folks”.
As far as this remark you made an I Quote;
I am sorry, no one shall ever make me click on a youtube link and video.
No one was trying to make you do anything, it was only a suggestion and I am truly sorry that you do not trust your computer security software enough to go on YouTube and watch a YouTube video.
My reply to darthfirefox’s post which was “Neither! Panda Cloud AV (Free) has a higher detection rate. (97%)”
was not and is not a scientific fact it is only my opinion and my choice for an AV and most readers would have known this.
Some things are better off not being said so…
Good Day!
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See this is your opinion about Avast, there are thousands of people who really like this AV product,
Exactly.
I only (and politely) outlined that what you said resulted from your own opinion and not scientific fact.
Am i not entitled myself to have my opinions?
Panda Cloud has a better detection rate in my opinionYes: opinion; i was not pejorative about it, i merely reminded it is only an opinion, wheras this is not presented as an opinion, but as a definitive fact:
Neither! Panda Cloud AV (Free) has a higher detection rate. (97%)
I am truly sorry that you do not trust your computer security software enough to go on YouTube and watch a YouTube video.It is of course not a security concern; my opinion (yes, i am also entitled to have one) is that video, social networking and instant messenging sites have no interest whatsoever, but i do not present it as an intangible truth, only as my opinion...
Last, if a forum is not a place for public debate, where everyone respects everyone, it has no reason to exist, and it does not have anymore if everyone agrees: i clearly (and again, politely) disagree with what you wrote in this topic, not meaning i globally disagree with you on every point or that i am not respectuous to you.
Private messenging is, as its name tells, made for private off-topic discussions, not for replacing the public debate with insults when one is out of arguments.
I shall therefore not reply to your private message, but quote it therafter litterally as i believe it has no private character but is a significant part of what you intend the public debate to be:
Quote of pm removed by moderator for breach of forum policy
Yes, i am a foreign speaker, and commenting in such words the way i write is merely a xenophobic behavior.
Yes, i am probably an old stupid dumb arsehol*e.
But even if this should be, opposite to what was previously said, purely factual, in what would it be related to the debate and make it progress in any way?
Now, of course, i have no particular attachment to this forum or another, and i don’t care, altough i didn’t have any reprehensible behavior, to be banned if a “noise” i did not initiate upsets the moderators.
You don’t know me, i don’t know you: the offense you made me is consequently not private, but public, and i am waiting for your public excuses.
You said more in one short sentence in your last post than I could ever say…
Excuses??? Why should I have Excuses? I simply have none what so ever and will not make any. I will not be involved in escalating this issue any further!
Good Day!
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Sad enough that some people are ready to say a lot of things in private mails but are not courageous enough to assume what they said in the public debate, and moreover bring as their defense line outraging hypocrisy; when i mistake myself, i at least always have the honour to recognize it.
Who escalated what? People shall judge if it was you or me, and there’s, you are right, nothing more to say in this debate i shall myself not continue, as the demonstration has been made of how credible what you say can be, and that there can be in these conditions no debate whatsoever.
What do you want to use it for?
1)To keep a clean PC clean
2)To clean an infected PC
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thanks
Melih
To go along with Melih’s question…
If you’re happy with CIS then why change it?
Brucine…I’m leaving this between you two but I wanted to say that while you’re advanced use of the English language is fine and dandy, the use of too many elaborate words can muddle and over complicate your statement, thereby not allowing your point to get across. Also, it can be a bit tiresome to read. You can, in many cases, say less with more 
Please keep this on topic and civil. :P0l
John
Assuming the computer is already clean, in my opinion Comodo Firewall does an incredible job of keeping it this way ;D. Therefore the only point of an AV in this configuration is merely to make it easier for the user to keep it this way. Since nothing can install without the user allowing it the most important aspect of the AV is detection.
By the way, personally I would advise Avast, but I use Comodo AntiVirus. It’s improving rapidly and never forget that Comodo Firewall protects you perfectly if you know what you’re doing. The choice is yours.