A Mod asked me to create specific thread for my prob in offtopic thread so I am mentioning my prob here.
As mentioned in Comodo Dragon 24.1 thread, I am having prob with CD i.e settings are not saved & update download not working manually when autoupdate is disabled in CD settings.
On my system C:\Users<USERNAME> folder is not accessible.
I am in touch with a DEV & he asked me “Make sure that your user has write access on the user profile folder on the system (the C:\Users<USERNAME> folder).”
As C:\Users<USERNAME> folder is not accessible on my system, users here have suggested to take the ownership of the folder. So I requested for screenshot of the ownership of this folder. Few posted the screenshot & it seems that SYSTEM is the default owner of this folder.
I tried to take the ownership as SYSTEM but it give error. How to take ownership as SYSTEM?
Someone posted context menu - take ownership utility but the link mentions this will take ownership as User’s name. I want to take ownership as SYSTEM as it seems the default owner for the folder mentioned as per the screenshots posted by few users.
NOTE - I did tried to take the ownership manually as User’s name & it was successful & the folder opened. This also solved all the CD probs i.e settings were saved & update download manually worked when autoupdate was disabled in CD settings. I then reverted back with system restore coz I want to take ownership as the default i.e SYSTEM.
How to take ownership as the default i.e SYSTEM for the folder C:\Users<USERNAME> folder?
I have Windows 8 and it works a little differently in the UI aspect so I’ll try to explain as good as I can… =/
What you can do is to take ownership of the folder and once that is done you should be able to change the security properties, correct?
If you are able to change these then you can go into the Security tab, press “Advanced” I think it’s called, after that you go to “Owner” and here you should be able to change the owner to System.
I haven’t tried this but it’s what I would do and I think it should work, if not you could always do a system restore?
I right clicked “Home” (Home is my user account name & its an only account on the system & is an admin account) then properties - security (here it was mentioned no permission) so I clicked on advanced - the owner tab - current owner was mentioned as “Unable to display current owner” & below were mentioned 2 accounts, administrator & Home, & there was edit button, I clicked on edit then clicked on other groups… then entered SYSTEM & pressed check & it found SYSTEM, I selected SYSTEM & replace subdir… & clicked apply & ok but it gives error no permission.
The same thing I did but selected user’s name instead of SYSTEM & it was successful.
I dont know why when selected SYSTEM it gives error.
Currently I am not on that system, later I will check & post the screenshots.
I didn’t checked if I could add permission to SYSTEM & I didn’t add permissions to user’s name too coz taking the ownership as mentioned above the folder & the subfolders were opening fine.
One thing I dont understand is…
I googled a lot & every troubleshoot mentions take ownership & add permissions
After taking ownership, when you right click the folder, the security tab shows few accounts & also the account i.e user’s name which you gave the ownership. Now if you click or highlight this account, below you can see the allow & deny section, & on allow everything is selected except special permission, so why you need to add permissions after taking ownership? Doesn’t on allow section everything selected means permissions is there or I am missing something here?
I’m not entirely sure what you mean but I don’t know how the take ownership actually works. What I imagine is that it makes your account the owner of the file and also gives you permissions for these, but my thought is that it doesn’t necessarily mean the “SYSTEM” has permissions hence if you try to set it as owner but it doesn’t have permissions to that folder, then it won’t allow it. So you have to first add yourself to the permissions then add system to the permissions and then change system to be the owner.
At least that is how I understand it, I might be completely wrong. But hey you’ve created a system restore point, right? So then it’s just to start trying things until something works or something goes horribly wrong and in the later scenario you can use the restore point to fix it.
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With the trouble you appear to be having with your ‘Windows User Account’, I would consider creating a new User Account and removing the old when you are sure you have retrieved everything you need from it.
Okay so if it works… then what is the problem now again? =S
The account you use on a daily basis I would say.
On my PC, by default, the folder “Sanya” which is my username, has all privileges for both System, Administrator and my User account. So I don’t see why it would matter which one you use to take ownership if you’re going to give permissions to all of them and then make System the owner?
Enter “Administrator” in the same language that the OS was installed in from the beginning, mine was Swedish hence it’s called “Administratör” After that use a semi-colon “;” and enter “system”, then a semi-colon and the username which you said was “home”.
3.5. Click check names and see if they all are accepted, if not, try checking the spelling and redo it
3.6. Click OK
Add to the allow section for each of the accounts.
4.5. Click OK
Click Advanced.
-Here is where Windows 8 differs from Windows 7, but what you want to do is make System the Owner, if that is what your goal is-
Thanxx for the screenshots. I will try this & post the results here.
But the thing here is quite confusing i.e…
I took the ownership as User’s name & the security tab showed only User Account i.e Home Account
I restored back & tried again taking ownership as User’s name & this time security tab showed Home Account, Administrators Account, SYSTEM, Everyone & one was named as Users Account.
I restored back & tried again taking the ownership as User’s name & this time again security tab showed only User Account i.e Home Account.
Quite confusing here.
But I will try the steps you have mentioned in the screenshots & see what happens.
OK, I did what you have mentioned but now lock icon appears on few files & folders, though all are opening.
If I take the ownership as Administrators (DEV also suggested this) then lock icon doesn’t appears on files & folders & all opens fine but security tab shows only Administrators account, would this be fine with no other probs if I keep this way?
If it works for you, as in things are updating and you can read and write then yes it should be fine. And if any problems would arise then you know where you can ask for help! =)
I did read that part but I don’t have any idea why it would give different results hence I didn’t comment on that. =/
I personally don’t know how partitioning works since I haven’t really tried it myself but I’d imagine that a repair would work fine. However a re-install would probably require that none of the system files are located at the E drive but other than that it should work fine I think. Basically C and E are like two different drives now except the information is stored on the same drive, so I think it would work fine as long as you re-install Windows to C drive and not the E drive.
However if you have a hard-disk failure then both C and E will be affected. If you have important files then I suggest you do back ups, there are free services like SkyDrive and DropBoX that give you a few gigabytes of storage, however there is also a new one called mega.co.nz which is created by the one and only Kim Dotcom and it offers 50GB of storage for free with encryption. Of course there are more services but I don’t know any other in my head.
You might want to invest in physical back-up too if you have things that you really can not loose under any circumstances. Myself I back-up my school stuff to both Skydrive, dropbox, mega and my thumb-drive.
First took the ownership as Administrators without selecting replace subfolders/files & clicked ok on all windows.
Then properties - security - showed quite a few accounts. Removed all the accounts except Administrators, Home & SYSTEM.
Then took the ownership as Administrators & selected replace subfolders/files & clicked ok on all windows then add permissions.
Then took the ownership as Home & selected replace subfolders/files & clicked ok on all windows then add permissions.
Then took the ownership as SYSTEM & selected replace subfolders/files & clicked ok on all windows then no need to add permissions as permissions are already there.
Now everything is fine with user account folder & comodo dragon.