Comodo browsers

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#1

To the Comodo staff

How in this day and age can anyone produce a browser which only works on one system. :-TD Where are the Mac, Linux etc versions of Comodo browsers? :-TD

Unbelievable
Comodo=0% imho

#2

One possible reason could be that the necessary programming required for each browser is too excessive to be justified by the rather small user base of these operating systems in comparison to Windows. Another reason may be that there has been no demand, without demand there is usually no supply and this is the first post I’ve read about it. Yet another reason could be that the developers of these browsers aren’t familiar with programming for Mac and Linux.

#3

Come on now where are you at with that answer? We are talking about a browser not a program.
They want to battle for shares in the world of top browsers it should not be Windows specific.

A company like Comodo should not be making a BROWSER which does not play across the board. This kind of thinking takes us back to the dark ages. Besides it is an implementation of Chromium.

Your thoughts on Mac are outdated.

#4

Is Chromium on other OSes?

#5

Believe it or not but a browser IS a program. However I agree that they SHOULD make their browser for other operating systems too, I just gave reasons which COULD be why they haven’t already.

A company like Comodo should be allowed to create what they want as far as it it doesn’t break any law, even if it doesn’t play on all operating systems. They shouldn’t be forced to make it for every platform, it’s a free program. However if they get enough demand for support of Mac and Linux, then it might happen.

I find it amusing and also somewhat creepy that you somehow know my thought about Mac even though I have not stated them in this thread.

From own experience I know that it is available for Linux and Android however I don’t know about Mac, though the wikipedia page for Chromium claims there is support for Mac.

#6

I won’t bother quoting any replies it’will get too long.

SanyaIV

amusing and creepy!!!

Simply taken from your answer very obvious.

Here is a link go read come back after you have read every page and link… LOL
But if you are smart enough just a scan of what web browsers are written in and which engine they use should give you a better idea.

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#7

What are you trying to imply?

No thank you, I won’t waste my time reading up about browsers, I did however look at chromium and Comodo Dragon which should be the ones of interest. And Surely they are primarily built on C and C++ and use WebKit as their layout engine. What do you want said with that? If anything it proves my point that they are programs.

#8

It’s Comodo business what they decide to do. Also coding for Mac and Linux is different. Comodo mainly specialize in Windows also SanyaIV is right there is no demand for it. The end.

#9

Hi masnak,

As Seany007 already said it’s up to Comodo what the release and what not, and you are allowed to dislike that, even post it here.
But If all you can do is create an account here an troll and disrespect other users your in violation of the forum policy.
If you continue this quest in this way you’ll be on the fast route to a ban in no time, I won’t warn again be sure of that!

#10

Comodo’s security applications are predominantly Windows based and with the browsers being another means of bringing some extra security to the Windows world it would make sense to stay with Windows.

Browsers are not Comodo’s core business like it for example is for Opera. Opera provides browsers over a various platforms (Windows, Apple Linux, Symbian, Windows Phone, Android and what I might forget) and devices (desktops, laptops, netbooks, tablets, smart and not so smart phones).

#11

Whatever led you to make such conclusions?

I have never really seen these top browsers “battle for shares”. Friendly competition, yes sure, but nothing the sort of battles. In fact, “browser battles” did not even start from those who build them but from articles, web journalists and users. The premise of building a browser automatically means you want a share in the world of top browsers is non-sequitur. I don’t/didn’t see QtWeb, SRWare Iron, Flock, K-Meleon, Qupzilla, Web, Lynx, and other such browsers being so desperate for “shares in the world of top browsers”. Maybe Rockmelt, but yeah, well maybe that’s just their hubris. If there really was a battle, it wouldn’t make sense to make them open-source. That’s just inviting competition, not to mention making your winning horse available to the opponent.

Yes.

That the quote he indicates: “amusing and creepy!!!” was, to paraphrase, “obviously taken from your answer” and in a way justifies him commenting that he will no longer quote – that is, to use the quote feature – as it will only take (or did he mean his reply will become? not entirely sure, too) long

I’m not entirely sure why he did what he did, although I assume he may have taken offense from your comment.

The link provided makes no sense and adds little to the knowledge of making browsers other than their history . As I have been told, it’s not only about which engine, but how the interface is rendered and the additional code which would make the browser uniquely yours. These alone should have enough impact on the browser’s performance and stability.

Since I have been self-studying on browsers, I know a few; rather than that link, may I suggest these links instead?

http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructions

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxGraphicsPipeline

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction

What these imply is:

  1. Review of code
    Comodo being a company on internet security, it makes sense that they have to find any vulnerabilities which may be exploited on the browser itself (both known and those yet unknown) and the privacy issues that come with it.

  2. Methodologies
    It would appear that apart from code, Comodo also uses extensions and (not being a user of IceDragon, I merely assume) add-ons to add functionalities to the hardened browser. This modular approach would require another debugging and review.

  3. Compatibility
    Bugs arise from a number of elements and all of which are virtually vulnerable to exploit. If Comodo is to maintain their reputation as a security company, it is only reasonable that they maintain a high level of compatibility across platforms. Not being too familiar with Mac, I will comment instead on Linux. One problem to consider would be on which platform. Almost every linux distro has a custom build of applications specifically designed for maximum compatibility and stability with the distro, and thus, packages their applications differently (.deb, .bod, .rpm). Though tarballs are provided, it is generally discouraged for security purposes to download outside of the repositories.

Window managers also present a difficulty. E17 for example handles applications differently from say, Openbox, Fluxbox, etc. and thus, certain applications are exposed to another set of compatibility issues. One may argue that the fault lies on the window managers, LibreOffice, OpenOffice, pcmanfm, file-roller, nm-applet, terminology, qtweb, etc. have proven that the bug may be from within the program and are possible vector points of attack or causes of instability.

We have not even scratched the surface should we begin to talk about the dependencies. Will the new features constitute additional dependencies? Will they rely on other dependencies? Is there a need to deviate from the current dependencies?

  1. Resources
    From the above alone, it is safe to assume that the amount of resources it takes to manage and maintain Windows, Linux, and Mac versions are relatively (for argument’s sake, as I don’t believe in anything being relative) high.

  2. Specialization
    Needless to say, familiarity plays a factor on the maintenance of products. Comodo specializing on security in Windows, it’s not farfetched to say that Linux and Mac is out of the question.

!ot!
If I may, to dispel any further misunderstandings and misconceptions:

The dark ages is nothing like the browsers “not playing across the board.” I see no intentional attempt to hinder the development of such programs, and in fact, such programs exist (take SRWare Iron for example) and flourish without fear of persecution. Not even the “iron curtain” of dictators and totalitarian rulers is comparable since the forums are open to the public and the issue is addressed without penalty on the person. Nor are people persecuted and silenced because of mere suspicion. None of these characterize browsers not being cross-platform. Would the same be said then of Microsoft? or of Apple? of pharmaceutical companies? of food industries? of professional workers? of secretive agencies? of small businesses like bakeries? of classrooms? of cliques? of individuals who is practically the most secretive among all these? Let’s not start pointing fingers without even knowing why.

#12

!ot! Aia. I started ranting without thinking again so I tried to post back as soon as I can. I’ll censor what needs to be censored when I get the time. Really sorry for that. Quite frankly, I’m easily insulted when something is always taken and said as if it were common sense. To be blunt, statements like those are condescending and altogether debasing. !ot!