Comodo and Avira

Comodo Internet Security - CIS Defense+ / Sandbox Help - CIS
#1

I am a new Comodo (4.1.150349.920) user with a query:

I thought that the settings for the Firewall and Defense+ were separate and independent.

I use Avira AntiVir. So that the Avira update process could occur I added “C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\update.exe” to My Own Safe Files. However, I expected to have to allow update to have access to the internet but in fact it was not asked for; the Avira update process accessed the internet without any intervention from COMODO. Why does this happen - it does not seem right??

NB: I do not have a tick in “Create rules for safe applications” under Firewall Behaviour Settings".

I have noticed this same behaviour for other Safe Files eg: Sandboxie (http://www.sandboxie.com/)??

Many thanks.

#2

Are you using CIS or CF?
It may be conflicting :wink:

Regards
BlackList

#3

As soon as you add something to your Safe files it is considered Trusted.

Firewall running in Safe Mode will not ask for permission for Trusted applications.

Dennis

#4

I downloaded Comodo Internet Security (CIS) but did not install the antivirus. I think that this is therefore the same as Comodo Firewall(CF)?? I cannot see what conflict could occur??

#5

I thought that this was only the case if I have a tick in “Create rules for safe applications” under Firewall Behaviour Settings" which I do not??

If the tick is not needed what does adding the tick do??

I noticed that for Skype, which is a trusted vendor, the Skype application connects to the Skype servers but later I get a Comodo alert asking to give Skype permission to receive a connection from the internet. I do not understand this given your response??

Thanks for your help.

#6

If you tick the box it makes a rule, if is not ticked it just connects without making a rule.

By your answer about Trusted Vendor (I do not use this), I presume a Trusted vendor is not allowed the same permissions as My Safe Files.

Dennis

#7

Is there any advantages in adding tick and thereby creating a rule?? I cannot see any point in creating a rule if connection is allowed anyway??

#8

Not really unless you wish to change the rule, it is possible to make it more strict if you wish.

Dennis

#9

Will Comodo treat an application defined as a “Trusted Application” under Defense+ the same as an application defined as My Own Safe Files under Defense+ and in both cases the firewall will allow internet access without intervention??

From a previous post I was advised that Firewall permissions operated separately and independently from Defense+ permissions which now seems to be incorrect??

#10

Sorry cannot help you with that question never use Trusted only Custom rules.

All I know by testing is once you place a process in My Safe Files running both Defense+ and Firewall in Safe mode no restrictions were placed on that process it could do what it liked unless you alter any rules that are made for it.

Dennis

#11

If I have an application that I want to run on my PC without restriction but I do not want it to access the internet, can I:

  1. Add application to My Own Safe Files so that no problems with Defense+ and application is not sandboxed; then
  2. Make Application a “Blocked Application” under Firewall → Common Tasks → Define a New Blocked Application.

So that restriction from firewall rule overides automatic permission to access the internet as a Safe Files? Will that work??

Is there somewhere that sets out which rules take priority in the event of conflicts??

#12

I do not see why this should not work.

The only problem that I can see it might try to use another application which has rights to the internet.

No not that I know it might be in the help file not sure how up to date it is not checked it recently.

Dennis