Challenge to Symantec from Comodo CEO!

thank you very much!

Symantec’s users also wants to see the test as it seems…

so why doesn’t Symantec listen to their users and do the test?

Melih

And it is This Symantec that spreads FUD about Free AV not being good!

It is the end users that I care about! Poor souls reading that statement from Symantec and going and forking out the monies they most likely can’t afford to fork out to Symantec! This is nothing short of unethical. Creating FUD, misinformation so that you can take people’s monies…shame…

Melih

All the best things in life are free. Thanks Melih and your team for being on the best and free list. Kind regards.

I think you just defined legacy AV’s in general. :wink:

People are noticing the date of Symantec’s statement…but what they fail to see and state is even after 1 year, their statement is making the rounds going unchallenged!

FUD has no expiry date I am afraid, as you have seen in the above example!

Melih

I have a laptop that was pre-loaded with Norton and for almost an entire year the AV never ever detected anything except 1 single cookie. When another program reported the presence of a Downloading Trojan I uninstalled Norton and immediately installed Comodo 3.38 and since then I have had no infections or detections of so much as even a single tracking cookie on either of my computers. I’m currently running Comodo 2011 on my desktop and it is the best version of Comodo yet.

~Maxx~

Someone has done a test comparing CIS 2011 vs. NIS 2011.

Part 1: Norton Internet Security 2011 vs Comodo Internet Security (Part 1) - YouTube

Part 2: Norton Internet Security 2011 vs Comodo Internet Security (Part 2) - YouTube

Part 3: Norton Internet Security 2011 vs Comodo Internet Security (Part 3) - YouTube

Part 4: Norton Internet Security 2011 vs Comodo Internet Security (Part 4) - YouTube

Part 1 and 2 of these videos just about sums up how well Comodo stacks up to Norton. CIS is a Prompter. It prompts for everything, INCLUDING malware that it has positively identified by name. This is a default configuration, and I would challenge Melih to build a product that can make decisions on its own without asking the user out-of-thebox. I think it would fail miserably due to FPs.

The sanboxing is pure rubbish. Looks like sandboxes anything that is not digitally signed. And if that weren’t bad enough, it even prompts the user to do that. Does the average user even know what a Sandbox is ? Seriously, Comodo has NO CLUE how to build a real-world security product for the masses.

So DO NOT try to compare your product which MAY work for a small subset of users with high technical ability, with a state-of-the-art product like Norton.

And to top it all, even with all the prompting Norton still detected more threats that Commode ;D

With a free product like Comodo you get what you pay for, which is not a whole lot since the user has to make a ll the decisions themselves.

And seriously Melih, you do realize you are the C E O of a company and yet you go on and on whining like a kid whose candy has been stolen. I dont think anyone takes you seriously any more. Totally childish and unprofessional

WOW…the first Norton Guy has arrived…

I might be average but not stupid of course I know what a sandbox is. Norton may detect more than Commode doesn’t make it better than Comodo. Average users have a brain and like making some decisions themselves. IMHO 1 reply from some is 1 to many.

Hello norton fan, :smiley: welcome to comodo forum. Please take some time to understand well the technology and philosophy behind comodo.

But again, welcome again . :wink:

Cheers

He is using virtualbox

WARNING: CIS does not work properly in VirtualBox because of the limitations imposed by this virtual machine(Vectored Exceptions fail). So please test it with another VM software.

languy99 about this video:

You need to reboot to clean out the the sandbox for comodo, I can tell you did not reboot, no wonder those files were still running in sandbox and taking up tons of CPU.

The man who test the Comodo dont have any idea how Comodo works!

What is a quack bot?

How can a man believe Norton if anyone can break his serial key. On the net there are tons of keys for NIS 2011.
If they can not protect themselves, such as Comodo, how they will protect their users?

in part 4 the tester acknowledges that he forgot to reboot… then he retests with the very same links… the tester mentions that languy99 sent him a message pointing that out :slight_smile:

I hope Symantec accepts Comodo’s challenge … I am very interested in the results O0

Melih they ask you some queation:

Melih:

"all are glorified "detection’ methods…

so the question still stands…

do you think NIS can detect (using everything they have) 100% of the malware?

Melih"

Why are you so worried about that question?

As a CEO of a business, you should be worried about market penetration, and as a direct consequence, whether your product can be deployed on a large and varied assortment of systems, both consumer and medium/large businesses.

Do you have the neccessary support infrastructure?
Do you have the neccessary centralised management system?
Do you have the business connections that will enable you to obtain large scale contracts?
Is your product useable for businesses (given that they have very different requirements to consumers)?
Is your product useable for consumers (and useable from their point of view, not yours)?
Do you have the neccessary revenue stream for advertising?
Are your planned expanison levels sustainable?
Is your forum professional when dealing with problems that end users experience?

If the answer to any of these questions is no, then unfortunately you will not be able to successfully penetrate the security market (by successfully I mean competing with the likes of Symantec and Kaspersky). Whether or not NIS has 100% detection level is irrelevant. You could have 100% protection, and you still won’t be able to compete with them if you can’t solve the above questions.

NIS at the minute is more user friendly, comparable in protection, has better removal, and is one of the top sold security products. Underestimating the leading competition is very dangerous.

Now I have a strong suspicion that 5 years down the line, things will still be the same - ie Symatec will still be one of the biggest security companies with one of the most sold products, and Comodo will still be used by a minority share of enthusiasts without gaining significant market share. Now if this does not happen, I will be one of the first to happily eat my words, and heartily congratulate Comodo on their fantastic achievments, plus admit that my judgement is lousy, and appologise to everyone for doubting Comodo.

But time will tell."

Yes we do have the support infrastructure.
Yes we do have the centralised Management (Comodo Endpoint Security Manager).
Yes we do have the contacts and ability to get large contracts :wink: (don’t forget, we are world’s largest Certification Authority…and Symantec just bought our main competitor (Verisign) so that they can compete with us :wink: )
Yes our product is usable by businesses
Yes usable by Consumers, around 40M of them…is that a big enough number? :wink:
Yes our expansion is very sustainable.
Our forum is one of the best, if not the best, in terms of problem resolution, speed, help and great place to be!

I guess because we answered all as yes, we will be successful :slight_smile: thanks!

We have NOT started this. Symantec did by making a statement against Free AV products, Why did Symantec say what they said against free AV? Why did they start this?

But you are right, noone has a crystal ball, only time will tell what tomorrow brings

Melih

It’s very interesting to see how this will turn out, really hope that Comodo decide to get some tests done and present them to Symantec. Along with your original proposal of NIS/AV VS CIS/AV, which in turn would surely gain some attention once you did that?

And… LOL @ Some of the Norton Fans who believe the rubbish they come out with, seriously, “how vacuous can one be?!”

Keep up the fight fellow Comodo users & Comodo itself!

First of all, i do sincerely welcome you to our forums and I do thank you for taking the time to participate in this discussion. I do appreciate it.

I don’t appreciate name calling though :frowning: if you can pls refrain from that I would be grateful, thanks.

Did you know that Symantec paid $1.3Billion for a company called Verisign, so that they can compete with Comodo?

Now the matter at hand:

1)Why did Symantec call free AV not good? Honestly, if they are the biggest company etc…why did they feel the need to attack Free AV?
2)On what basis are you making a statement “So DO NOT try to compare your product which MAY work for a small subset of users with high technical ability, with a state-of-the-art product like Norton.”? Do you know how many novices use our product? Have you played with our product? Or you caught the bug from Symantec and willy nilly make misleading statements?

Comodo has focussed on Security first. Afterall if you wanted a usable product thats not secure, you can download them from internet :slight_smile: We care for our users, we want to protect them and we are not kidding ourselves by providing something that “seems” to work but doesn’t and call it usable! Of course we continue to innovate for usability without sacrificing security.

Maybe one question you can answer for me:

Does norton catch 100% all malware? if not what happens to the malware that norton doesn’t catch?
(ps: when i say norton, i do mean the whole product to avoid confusion)

Melih