Author Topic: [merged]Firefox X Released~can't wait for new CID! Speculations and lamentations  (Read 53396 times)

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Pale Moon 24 Is 30 times faster than Firefox 24 and it has every feature Mozilla disables in Firefox enabled in it  and it has a 64 bit version as well and it it is more stable  and it is a better variation than icedragon is icedragon is a joke  just like  fraking comodo dragon is http://www.palemoon.org/  and hear is  the release notes on it http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes-ng.shtml

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Pale Moon 24 Is 30 times faster than Firefox 24 and it has every feature Mozilla disables in Firefox enabled in it
30 times faster with more functions enabled by default than FF?  :o Wow... ;)

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and it has a 64 bit version as well and it it is more stable  and it is a better variation than icedragon is icedragon is a joke  just like  fraking comodo dragon is http://www.palemoon.org/  and hear is  the release notes on it http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes-ng.shtml
Care to elaborate why Palemoon is that much better?

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Pale Moon 24.0 has been released!

This is a new major version with a lot of changes - too many to list all of them individually. The most important notes about this release:

    Update of the underlying Mozilla code base (Gecko) to v24.0. Because of this change, Pale Moon's version number has jumped from 20 to 24, to keep it in line with the underlying Gecko version (for extension compatibility's sake)
    Update of the Pale Moon icon/logo. As most of you have already seen, the Pale Moon logo has been updated from the previous painted design to a more eye-popping, crisper design. No, you cannot use it for your own purposes, it is © copyrighted.
    Special thanks go to Roger Gómez del Casal for providing me with an interesting concept design image to use as a base for it!
    Fixes for all relevant security vulnerabilities. With the update to Gecko v24.0, all fixes for newly found security vulnerabilities since Firefox 23-release have been incorporated.
    Many changes and updates in the rendering, scripting and parsing back-end to provide significant improvements in overall browser performance (including the much overrated benchmark scores).
    Addition of a number of HTML5 elements, improving overall HTML5 standards compliance. Curious what all is supported by Pale Moon v24.0? Put it to the test!
    Implementation of the webaudio API (most features that are no longer draft). Webaudio is an emerging standard for the web, useful for e.g. HTML5 games. Pale Moon 24.0 implements all of the basic and some of the more advanced features of webaudio.
    Removal of Tab Groups (Panorama). See also: http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2995
    If you actively used this functionality, I have also made an add-on (Mozilla dev sourced) available to restore this feature to the browser. You can also use alternative add-ons if you run into problems with this add-on, like Showcase
    Removal of a few additional Accessibility options. Since Pale Moon does not aim to provide accessibility features, the (default off) preferences for them that were left in the Options dialog have been removed. Specifically, this removes:
    - Always using cursor navigation within pages. Pale Moon users will normally use a pointing device to use the browser and navigate pages.
    - Search for text when I start typing. Potentially a really confusing option since it may make the page jump when typing if you don't have focus on an input field, and incompatible with the current implementation of some HTML5 elements.
    - Warn me when websites try to redirect or reload the page. This feature is often misunderstood as a safety/security feature, but that is definitely not the intended purpose of it (it's an accessibility feature for people with special needs display devices where it would be confusing if a page automatically changes). Redirection, forwarding and meta-reloading of pages is a common feature of many web sites (including this very forum!) and should normally be fully transparent. If you want to block redirection by (potentially malicious) scripts, you should have a look at one of the many available Firefox add-ons to help you.
    Inclusion of an updated version of the Add-on SDK and loader to solve recent issues with SDK/Jetpack add-ons.
    Pale Moon now includes its own copy of the Add-on ADK inside the browser, with an updated loader. This should address and fix all of the known compatibility issues with some recently released SDK/Jetpack add-ons.
    Adjustment of the Quickdial "new tab" feature to have better layout. The default layout now shows a more convenient and appealing grid than in previous versions, with up to 16 most-visited pages.
    Extension of the address bar shading functionality to more clearly indicate when there is a problem with a secure site. To keep you aware of and alert about potentially broken SSL (secure/encrypted website) connections, Pale Moon 24.0 now shows a red border around the address bar when there is a problem. Problems with SSL are commonly boken SSL encryption and mixed content. Even if you allow mixed active content for a site, Pale Moon will continue to warn you this way that the connection should not be trusted, and that you should be careful about entering any sensitive data.
    New way of handling plugins with control on a per-site basis. An extensive description can be found in this thread.
    Unification of version numbers. x86 and x64 will from this point forward use the same version number (and icon) without an architecture designation. This will solve potential compatibility issues on new major versions, as well as the superfluous compatibility check when switching between x86 and x64 on the same profile.


A note about features different from Firefox
Pale Moon 24.0 deviates from Firefox in a number of ways. The most important changes are outlined below:

    Pale Moon retains the graphical tab switching pane with quick filter in lieu of the removed Tab Groups feature.
    The tab switching pane is accessed from Ctrl+Tab -> Show all {n} tabs or by hitting Ctrl+Shift+Tab
    Pale Moon retains the option to hide the tab bar with only one tab. If you prefer to work with multiple, single-page windows, you won't be wasting any screen space. Like in Firefox versions prior to 23, there is an option to "Always show the tab bar" in your Options -> Tabs pane to control this feature.
    Pale Moon retains and expands on the browser-wide option to load images in web pages. In your Options -> Content pane, you will find options to apply to the browser overall:
    - Load images automatically: loads images in web pages automatically (the default) if the are not otherwise blocked per-site
    - Never load images: prevent images from loading, e.g. very useful for very slow wireless/sat connections or on tightly-metered connections to save bandwidth and allowed internet volume
    - Originating server only: only loads images from the website you are visiting, and doesn't load images from other sites. Your results may vary with this option selected
    In addition, you can fine-tune this behavior per-site by checking "Page info" (in the right-click menu of a page) -> Permissions -> "Load images"
    More recovery options in the safe mode dialog box. Contrary to Firefox which only allows you to start in safe mode or to completely reset your user profile, Pale Moon offers you a number of options for troubleshooting without having to completely reset or do advanced troubleshooting in safe mode manually. You will have the option to Disable all add-ons and start the browser that way, Reset toolbars and controls (if the UI is messed up), Reset the bookmarks database in case of serious corruption, Reset all user preferences, and reset search providers in case they got corrupted or hijacked.
    Resetting your profile is instead done from Help -> Troubleshooting information after you have started the browser, in case of serious trouble (hopefully you won't need this very often ;) ).
    Pale Moon retains the "Send Link" "Send Page" options for quick sending of a URL in your default e-mail client. This saves you from having to manually copy and paste the URL of a page.
    Pale Moon displays secure sites differently than Firefox - for a more in-depth explanation, see this post.
    No WebRTC. Pale Moon does not include WebRTC functionality.
    Both by popular vote and because it would go beyond the scope of a web browser, WebRTC is not included in Pale Moon. Pale Moon aims to remain a web browser and not become a pseudo-voice/video chat client; there are plenty of dedicated programs out there for that purpose already. In addition, it's not even a W3C recommendation or part of any standard at the moment.
    No Telemetry, no Health Report. Pale Moon values your privacy and will not collect, store or send any data about the browser's behavior (and as a result, your browsing behavior) anywhere.

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For those who aren't aware, Comodo announces the discontinuation of a product by ceasing all work on it without any announcement that they have and not answering any questions regarding it's status. Months later they place it in the "Discontinued Products" board without any announcement. You guys should put that in an FAQ so people know.

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For those who aren't aware, Comodo announces the discontinuation of a product by ceasing all work on it without any announcement that they have and not answering any questions regarding it's status. Months later they place it in the "Discontinued Products" board without any announcement. You guys should put that in an FAQ so people know.
Until further notice we assume it is still being developed.

Please refrain from making unsubstantiated claims. Your statement is conjecture.

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Oh, sorry, I didn't know you'd received official word from Comodo that the project was still being developed. I just thought your statement was conjecture.

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Until further notice we assume it is still being developed.
And for how long? :D
FF 24 is already out.

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i think that Firefox is overdoing it with all these releases.They don't change pretty much anything,It must be difficult for comodo to catch them and every 20-30 days release a new version.
But at least they should inform us,so that could know and be more patient.I also started to try Pale moon until  i see what happens with Ice Dragon.

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Until further notice we assume it is still being developed. Merged.

Oh, sorry, I didn't know you'd received official word from Comodo that the project was still being developed. I just thought your statement was conjecture.

EricJH used the term assume which seems to imply his statement is also conjecture.
With Firefox on version 24 and IceDragon on 22 I don't think it has ever been so long a delay.  Comodo is free to abandon projects anytime but should inform its users when doubts arise.  Especially, considering Comodo a security company.
If you're still not aware, take a look at all of the security vulnerabilities that IceDragon suffers being at version 22:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
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Hehe, yes, that was kind of my point. It is also a little silly to tell someone to not make statements of conjecture in a thread dedicated to "Speculations and lamentations". I would even further argue that my statement was not conjecture because that's exactly what Comodo has done in the past and I didn't actually say CID was cancelled. CPM and CDE were both discontinued without any announcement so there is precedent. To stay on topic I will speculate that if a new release doesn't come out within two weeks, there's a good chance one never will. Use Pale Moon instead.

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Hehe, yes, ....... a new release doesn't come out within two weeks, ....
All of us will tell: "We love and we remember." ( 88)
P.S. Maybe they are going to present us with a surprise? ???
Maybe they should do for us a beta version?
If they consider that the product isn't competitive, leave it and report.
Thanks.
P.S. Problems not that long there is no a new version.
The matter is that some additions too are updated.
There is a malfunction of some additions to the (with) 22 version.


« Last Edit: September 19, 2013, 08:55:02 PM by jenny66 »

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...I have ridden both of my machines of all commode-o files, folders, as well as registry searches and will never use any commode-o products ever again, because of all of their arrogant rude behavior, & treatment of their LOYAL waiting & waiting users, especially how they WON'T even tell any body what's going on - it's Iron & Firefox forever for me - they are awesomely superior compared to the Commode -o ones - If I had known that all the goofiness, especially in the Facebook games, have been because of these junky browsers, I would have done it a long time ago - I can't count how many times I've had to uninstall & reinstall these 2 browsers just to have the supreme pleasure of keeping them going, & if there's anybody who uses any of the other stuff for the security of their machines, they are not in their right mind, especially if they are doing banking or other security sensitive things like that in them, from a so called "security" company who can't or WON'T even do a browser halfway decent - never have I had so much grief from any other software - the only thing I will have to do with commode-o from now on, is visit the forums once in a while to read about the myriad complaints & garbage, when I need a good laugh - Meleh's gonna lose his butt entirely if he doesn't change his attitude, especially towords his employees, (yes, Iv'e read a lot about that too in other forums from people who used to work for him), & that means really CHANGE, not just ACT like it, & blow a lot of sunshine up their you know whats -sooooooooo - Kind Regards - Best Wishes - Good Luck - Farewell...

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