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Offline CISfan

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2021, 04:52:32 AM »
I tried adding No Script. It's been some time since I had it installed. If memory serves me, I had to do a lot of setting toggling to get things to work right on lots of sites.

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Yes

Within our dataset of several hundred thousand visitors tested in the past 45 days, only one in 138.47 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours.

Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 7.14 bits of identifying information.

Have you installed other addons or arkenfox to achieve this result or changed some NoScipt settings for that?
I tried NoScript without anything else and result was not very good (see tests).

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2021, 02:28:53 PM »
Have you installed other addons or arkenfox to achieve this result or changed some NoScipt settings for that?
I tried NoScript without anything else and result was not very good (see tests).

There was an assortment of addons before I added no script. Canvas blocker, decentraleyes, ghostery, https everywhere, privacy badger, UBO. I made no changes to noscript. Just adding noscript moved me from partial to full protection on cover your tracks.

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2021, 05:07:09 PM »
There was an assortment of addons before I added no script. Canvas blocker, decentraleyes, ghostery, https everywhere, privacy badger, UBO. I made no changes to noscript. Just adding noscript moved me from partial to full protection on cover your tracks.

Thanks.
As I prefer to use FF out of the box (meaning without using arkenfox) I'll start some new tests to find out which addon(s) next to using NoScript is required to get the fingerprint full protection.

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2021, 06:43:49 PM »
New tests, started with a new and clean FF profile, using latest FF 92.0.1 and latest available addons.
All addons added to FF at their default settings.

Results:

No addons

Blocking tracking ads?    Partial protection
Blocking invisible trackers?    Partial protection
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Your browser has a nearly-unique fingerprint
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 16.76 bits of identifying information.

NoScript

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    No
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 15.18 bits of identifying information.

NoScript, Decentraleyes

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    No
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 14.95 bits of identifying information.

NoScript, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Partial protection
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 13.01 bits of identifying information.

NoScript, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger, Https Everywhere

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Partial protection
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 12.95 bits of identifying information.

NoScript, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger, Https Everywhere, Canvas Blocker

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Partial protection
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 12.9 bits of identifying information.

NoScript, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger, Https Everywhere, Canvas Blocker, Ghostery

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Partial protection
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 12.86 bits of identifying information.

NoScript, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger, Https Everywhere, Canvas Blocker, Ghostery, uBlock Origin

Blocking tracking ads?    Yes
Blocking invisible trackers?    Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting?    Partial protection
Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 12.81 bits of identifying information.


As can be seen from the above tests using NoScript, Decentraleyes and Privacy Badger reduces the identifying information with 3.75 bits and sets protection level to Partial.
Strangely, when adding the addons Https Everywhere, Canvas Blocker, Ghostery and uBlock Origin this doesn't reduce the identifying information bits any further and keeps protection level at Partial.
I can't seem to reach the identifying information of 7.12 bits and protection level Yes from previous test using only NoScript and arkenfox.

What settings do I have to make in FF and/or Addons to achieve the identifying information of 7.12 bits?

[at]CommodoUser2019, are you using arkenfox too perhaps? Could you please check your FF profile directory if the file user.js exists?

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2021, 03:13:41 AM »
What settings do I have to make in FF and/or Addons to achieve the identifying information of 7.12 bits?

[at]CommodoUser2019, are you using arkenfox too perhaps? Could you please check your FF profile directory if the file user.js exists?

I've never heard of arkenfox. It appears to be something from github and I don't even know how it works. I use extensions right from FF and individual tweaks via about:config. I don't see a user.js file. I checked here: C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
I've made a good deal of FF tweaks, many of them from this site: https://restoreprivacy.com/firefox-privacy/
There's a lot of useful information on his site and that link is just about FF. OFF-TOPIC- Just before typing this I read a disturbing story on restore privacy.com about an attack against the VPN industry as a (former?) malware distributer has just bought out a bunch of VPNs including the one I use which I just re-subscribed to earlier this month. Also review websites.  :o  >:(

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2021, 06:07:37 AM »
I've never heard of arkenfox. It appears to be something from github and I don't even know how it works. I use extensions right from FF and individual tweaks via about:config. I don't see a user.js file. I checked here: C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
I've made a good deal of FF tweaks, many of them from this site: https://restoreprivacy.com/firefox-privacy/
There's a lot of useful information on his site and that link is just about FF. OFF-TOPIC- Just before typing this I read a disturbing story on restore privacy.com about an attack against the VPN industry as a (former?) malware distributer has just bought out a bunch of VPNs including the one I use which I just re-subscribed to earlier this month. Also review websites.  :o  >:(

Thanks for checking the presence of user.js in the right spot.

That's an excellent article on https://restoreprivacy.com/firefox-privacy/.
I applied the tweaks from that article to the last FF test from above and bingo, identifying information = 7.15 bits.

As for "malware" VPNs, who can you trust these days...   :o

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2021, 03:45:46 PM »
The article from https://restoreprivacy.com/firefox-privacy/ is pretty good but a bit old...Some settings mentioned there aren't actual anymore and there is a mistake also...(media.peerconnection.enabled (WebRTC) = false but media.peerconnection.enabled  = false)
In general it covers basic privacy settings from arkenfox and the latter gets quite often updates which could be installed with just a mouse click. ;)

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2021, 05:23:14 PM »
In section "Browser fingerprinting" the link to browser fingerprinting is quite recent (March 9, 2021) and it also covers arkenfox/ghacks user.js.

True, arkenfox is updated often and installing it is very easy but it changes a massive number of FF settings. Simply installing arenfox without knowing what settings get added or changed in FF may lead to confusion when using FF, for example, it does disable IPv6.
Read user.js carefully before using it.

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2021, 01:49:19 AM »
I thought one should always read instructions before using something, especially when using scripts...? ;D

...If you are going to use the 'arkenfox' user.js file then you should never edit it, (nor the prefs.js file that Firefox creates) nor should you change important settings from about:config unless you're only testing something. All of your custom preferences should be placed in your user-overrides.js file and then appended to the 'arkenfox' user.js using their updater script...https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/firefoxgecko-configuration-guide-for-privacy-and-performance-buffs/comment-page-10/

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2021, 06:29:34 AM »
CIS doesn't flag the script so no need to read instructions.  ;D

So if I want to enable IPv6 in arkenfox then I have to create a user-overrides.js file add the pref to enable IPv6 to it then execute the script to append user-overrides.js to user.js and then I have to restart Firefox?
That's quite cumbersome, why not edit user.js directly? Are there any specific do-not-touch reasons?

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2021, 09:59:24 AM »
I think I shouldn't copy and paste the full article here. :)  The main reason is as the author says: user.js file is quite a large and is updated fairly frequently, so if you edit it and then update it, all your custom changes will be lost, whereas if you copy the preferences you want to alter from the 'arkenfox' user.js to your user-overrides.js and change the values there, then updating the 'arkenfox' user.js one will be a lot less painful.

Better you read about it in https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/firefoxgecko-configuration-guide-for-privacy-and-performance-buffs/comment-page-10/... When not fully, then just the  Configuration files, Obtaining and maintaining the user preferences files, Verifying the integrity of user.js and especially Updating the user.js and user-overrides.js files sections.

I have created for my own use a simple batch file to update user.js with just one click.

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Re: IceDragon end of life?
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2021, 11:16:16 AM »
Ok, thanks very much for explaining, much appreciated.  :-TU

Maybe I'm going to use arkenfox too, will see.

 

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