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Offline Chiron

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Re: Help
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2010, 05:20:59 PM »
Every time I run a virus scan with Comodo 4.1.150349.920, about 20 minutes into the scan I get a Blue Screen of Death. (Kernel_Stack_In Page.Error 0X0077)
I am running Windows XP SP3 3.20 GHz 2 GB Ram Asus Motherboard.
This seems to have started when I installed the latest verison of Comodo. I have uninstall and reinstalled Comodo at least 2 times but I still get the Blue Screen when I run a virus scan.

Help!
Can you please repost your problem in a new topic here:
http://forums.comodo.com/antivirus-help-cis-b134.0/

You will be much more likely to get help there.

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2010, 03:04:36 AM »
Here is an article published in Security Focus Don't Blame Your Browser

Hope you enjoy it

Melih

Thanks for sharing your ideas with us Melih.

Always interesting following your work here, it's a great inspiration!

Would like to reply with a couple of lines here as some sort of feedback for Comodo.

I've been using Microsoft's Windows XP together with IE since 2004 and found the great use of CIS just two years ago. I haven't tested your browser yet the Dragon so I do not have any testimonials from this one.

What I feel could be one good way in make the web experience more secure could be by using more of the virtual solutions when we use internet with our browsers.

The vast majority of many ordinary users maybe do not know that much of all the good by using virtual products like sandboxie, virtual machines and similar and how much these things can improve our own protection and security.

Recently, I saw a project from Dell there they developed a browser (Firefox) to run virtual.
I download it and installed it on my machine of curiosity just to see the difference.
And I can only say, it surprise me that there is not more vendors out there that provide their users with the same solutions as it should be much more secure to run the browser like a VM instead of how we run ordinary
software in Windows.

Wouldn't this be a interesting new challenge for Comodo in develope a virtual browser which can prevent changes in the system from downloaded files from internet and run in protected virtual mode?

Would be nice if it had the speed from webkit engine and provided the users the possibility to use addons like in IE/Firefox e.g Roboform for login passwords and together with tabbed windows.

Please Melih :-* 

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2010, 07:56:54 AM »
Thanks for sharing your ideas with us Melih.

Always interesting following your work here, it's a great inspiration!

Would like to reply with a couple of lines here as some sort of feedback for Comodo.

I've been using Microsoft's Windows XP together with IE since 2004 and found the great use of CIS just two years ago. I haven't tested your browser yet the Dragon so I do not have any testimonials from this one.

What I feel could be one good way in make the web experience more secure could be by using more of the virtual solutions when we use internet with our browsers.

The vast majority of many ordinary users maybe do not know that much of all the good by using virtual products like sandboxie, virtual machines and similar and how much these things can improve our own protection and security.

Recently, I saw a project from Dell there they developed a browser (Firefox) to run virtual.
I download it and installed it on my machine of curiosity just to see the difference.
And I can only say, it surprise me that there is not more vendors out there that provide their users with the same solutions as it should be much more secure to run the browser like a VM instead of how we run ordinary
software in Windows.

Wouldn't this be a interesting new challenge for Comodo in develope a virtual browser which can prevent changes in the system from downloaded files from internet and run in protected virtual mode?

Would be nice if it had the speed from webkit engine and provided the users the possibility to use addons like in IE/Firefox e.g Roboform for login passwords and together with tabbed windows.

Please Melih :-* 

you tried comodo dragon?

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2010, 03:29:44 AM »
The browser doesn't protect you from downloading malware. A virtualized browser running in the cloud would however. Hey that's a good idea... browse the internet inside a virtual sandbox in the cloud. That way malware stays in the sandbox...on the cloud computer...on the internet!




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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2010, 06:59:20 PM »
you tried comodo dragon?

Yes I used the oportunity right after I wrote my post here and installed it.
It's fast and works very good together with flash on webpages.
Issues I usually have when scroll up and down on pages with other browsers almost doesn't exist in Dragon.
I assume alot of people would say it's a userfriendly browser with the "clean" interface.
Saw there was a Bookmark manager, very useful feature that I guess many like.
From my own side, I'd love to see some more improvements of the "History" feature in make it smaller and more effective to use as it needs "pages" to go through.
For be that kind of user that like to work with settings there could be some more.
Why not make two versions, one which comes with premade default easy settings and another with more settings to change for advanced users, that could be an interesting choice.

But from my first impression it wasn't bad at all!
Very cute girls by the way on the first page ;)

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2010, 07:21:37 PM »
The browser doesn't protect you from downloading malware. A virtualized browser running in the cloud would however. Hey that's a good idea... browse the internet inside a virtual sandbox in the cloud. That way malware stays in the sandbox...on the cloud computer...on the internet!


I think that would be next step in how browsers should be created.
Virtualized protection is'nt wrong in reach a high level of protection for the users.
It has the ability in roll back and start all over again in a clean state.
For example when download something, content on a webpage, files etc. it's possible do this in a protected environment were these files can't make any changes in the ordinary system as long the user has not yet give the promition for it. If you then want to run a setup file on your system you can also do that in a sandbox in the browser or the sandbox in the Comodo security suite.

There is one opinion that I have regarding what's happen right now out there on internet.
I think Comodo should rely on their own idea and not following "the cloud thing" or "the Google thing"
Just watch what happened recently when Hotmail made their "copy" of Google by their new upgrade of 1,3 Billions accounts all over the world. I wasn't pleased that day this faced myself when checked my own mails.
I can not read my mails any longer with my CRT screen and this graphic card I have installed besides they doesn't take any responsibility in protect their own users from advertisement interests when dealing with their partners.
Just read their legal policy statement EULA and even a kid will understand that their users have no rights what so ever. Should it be like this and this is Microsoft?
Unbelievable

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2010, 07:30:55 PM »
you tried comodo dragon?

When talking of e-mails and Hotmail...

Do you think there could be a way in develop a e-mail service online for Comodo users?
I guess that could be right moment for doing it right now :-La

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2010, 09:34:55 PM »
I see that this browser is the same as Google chrome it no reason I need this one if the same thing :)
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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2010, 07:25:59 AM »
I see that this browser is the same as Google chrome it no reason I need this one if the same thing :)
I agree, the interface is just a little bit different, but im a Mozilla Firefox user...  ;D

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2010, 02:22:08 PM »

Memory firewalls ; excellent idea.

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2010, 03:13:23 PM »
Here is an article published in Security Focus Don't Blame Your Browser

Hope you enjoy it

Melih

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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2010, 09:00:36 AM »
]The sign-up page for Comodo forums has a security flaw[/b].  It has "show my email address to the public" already ticked off.  It should be automatically un-ticked.  Fortunately I read everything before clicking & noticed the above flaw and un-ticked it.  I also make it a habit of checking my profile page before using any new website. 

I made sure I checked off:
Hide email address from public? 
and
Show others your online status?

Security is the job of everyone.  the OS, the Browser, the PC, email, every application (like adobe,flash player, etc.), and even forums & other social websites, but also the end user.

In the analogy of the car.  The fool who leaves his car unattended & unlocked & running & shouldn't wonder why it got stolen or why the insurance company won't cover it completely if it got smashed up.

All the security in the world won't help if the end user is totally oblivious.  You can't make anything foolproof.  If you do, a fool will operate it.  Unfortunately, most computer users are people who operate a computer at work & don't care about security or even backing up the data (the fools).  That's why the biggest hackers are actually targeting the end user.  Phishing, Nigerian-scam emails, free programs, click the monkey, fake scanners, the list is limited only by man's imagination.

On a good note, for end users who are smart, along comes comodo.  I researched on YouTube, Google,etc.  I ran anti-maleware programs Hitman Pro, Malewarebytes Anti-Maleware, spybot.  There was a ton of maleware on my computer.  I then uninstalled zone-alarm & Avira & installed the free Comodo premium program.  I'm now 100% maleware free.  I then installed Comodo System Cleaner.  It did a good job & was the safest reg cleaner I have used.  It doesn't make any permanent changes until you test your system.  Fantastic.  I still used regseeker to clean up some links that could not be found.

So far so good.  My computer boots twice as fast.  I get up to 360 MB of ram available out of 500 MB.  The system seems to run smoother.  I don't get any more running out of virtual memory warnings when I have multiple tabs open in my browser.  Initially it was slower when it "learned".  But it got faster by the  next day.   There were a few false positives but they were quarantined & I restored them from quarantine.
 
This is definitely not a program for the novice, however.  I had trouble setting up the network between two computers because Comodo blocked the link until I turned off Comodo, ran the network wizard on both computers, then turned on Comodo again.  I then found the program in defense plus "View defenses & events" and added "network1" to the trusted files just to make sure.

After these minor incidents it works flawlessly.

Great job Comodo.
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Re: Don't Blame Your browser!
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2010, 12:33:01 PM »
You're actually making wrong analogies and you're pulling the things out of the context.

Browsers are made to browse. Pretty simple, of course they're made so safe as possible. But the original defender must be the security products. Of course that's a little old-fashioned. I mean, it's the same as using detection instead of prevention. In both things, technology advanced . It's normal that browsers are made with security packets in them, but that's not their main goal. They're create so you can go on the internet !

can any one tell me recently i installed d comodo interne sec,. ver.5 does it have a good malware detection other than kaspesky nd nortion.


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Re: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN COMODO GETS A VIRUS?
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2010, 05:47:17 AM »
MY COMODO I.S. GOT A TROJAN . AGENT/ GEN-FALCOMP IN PROGRAMFILES/COMODO
NOW WHEN C.I.S. RUNS A SCAN MY TOWER SHUTS OFF, WHY AND WHAT DO I DO?
« Last Edit: October 26, 2010, 06:06:56 AM by hokahey »
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Re: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN COMODO GETS A VIRUS?
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2010, 11:07:36 AM »
MY COMODO I.S. GOT A TROJAN . AGENT/ GEN-FALCOMP IN PROGRAMFILES/COMODO
NOW WHEN C.I.S. RUNS A SCAN MY TOWER SHUTS OFF, WHY AND WHAT DO I DO?
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