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Offline nattyenigma

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avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« on: October 14, 2009, 09:48:42 AM »
hello!
I have Avira Antivir Personal for antivirus protection. I would like to run comodo firewall ( disable the antivirus component of the package) for firewall protection. Would someone kindly tell me what problems would i encounter, how often is this combination selected and the success rate of duo interms of smooth function of my PC and desired individual success rates?
Thank you.

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 09:54:37 AM »
Almost every AV works smoothly with Comodo's FW and D+.
Avira does; I had it for a couple of weeks and the feedback of other users goes in the same direction.
The only one I know that poses some problems is Kaspersky.

Jose.

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 10:04:32 AM »
thanks. I found some discrepencies when i googled this matter. I saw how comodo performed really well on the test as compared to Avira 8. I have Avira 9. I do not know the difference b/n the two versions. But the test i am referring to compared Avira 8. I believe Avira personal comes with basic firewall protection as well. I am a novice when it comes to computers ,  including security necessities for my PC. I appreciate all suggestions and the time taken to reply.

josedase

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 10:17:25 AM »
Let's make one thing clear:

      Never have two AV's or two FW's simultaneously.

That said, if you decide to use another AV with CIS remember this:
   Choose not to install Comodo's AV (that's during installation itself, just uncheck the box).
   When you install the AV of your choice make sure it's not the suite version of the product (no, Avira personal has no FW protection at all).

Take a look at this thread as well

                 https://forums.comodo.com/empty-t44371.0.html

Jose.


P.S. I'm not sure if CIS disables Windows FW.
       Do it like this:
          Download CIS
          Disconect from the Net
          Disable Windows FW (Start, Control Pannel, Windows Firewall, Turn Windows Firewall on or off, Off, Apply, OK)
          Install CIS
          Conect to the Net
« Last Edit: October 14, 2009, 10:58:21 AM by Jose_Lisbon »

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 05:43:13 PM »
Never have two AV's or two FW's simultaneously.

It's fine to have more than one AV solution as long as only one is set to actively monitoring your system. There can be problems if more than one AV is trying to monitor things, but using other AV's for on-demand scans isn't a problem. (Although it is a good idea to disable on-access scanning with your main AV while the other does an on-demand scan)

P.S. I'm not sure if CIS disables Windows FW.

On some systems it will, on others it will not. I'm not quite sure what the determining factors are.

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 05:55:45 PM »
HeffeD,
   I agree with all you said but...
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I am a novice when it comes to computers ,  including security necessities for my PC.

Let's keep it simple for him. At least for the time beeing  >:-D

Kind regards,
Jose.

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 06:09:46 PM »
thanks to all :)
i'm a "she".
yes, simple works best.
i wasnt aware that Avira had no firewall protection at all! Altho, i take that with a pinch of skept.
now, practising active listening/reading... "I can run avira AV and the firewall portion of comodo alone, without problems on my Vista laptop, correct?"

josedase

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 06:48:17 PM »
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Altho, i take that with a pinch of skept.

   Only Avira Premium Security Suite has an FW, wich is not to good.

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"I can run avira AV and the firewall portion of comodo alone, without problems on my Vista laptop, correct?"

   Correct. But don't forget Defense+. I advise you to check on that. It will be the backbone of your security setup but sometimes it will be a pain in the neck (for the good cause).
   Take a look at this video. It's about version 3.9 but it's still quite valid for the current 3.12. Besides, it is the best review/tutorial ever made when it comes to Comodo.

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Nw2ySRVQs&feature=channel_page


   Don't forget to post some feedback. How it went etc.

Regards,
Jose.

         

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 01:56:16 PM »
I did see the video.. was helpful. I am now left with a new doubt: If i wanted to bump up the security features of comodo and use the proactive security (and have comodo as my first line of defense.. with defense + n all), wouldnt that mean that i am essentially going to use comodo AV?
In as much as i can uninstal avira AV .. i do not wish too.
I guess, amidst all this ramble, my question is comodo with active defense plus is a function of AV security, isnt it? not firewall??
The presentor of the video did mention abt Avira 9 as his most reliable second line defense.. ofcourse the first NOT being comodo. Although he thoroughly enjoys testing comodo and appreciates this forum and sites its usefulness in ease of troubleshooting comodo issues. Kudos!

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 02:04:11 PM »
During installation you are presented with three choices:
   Install the full suite
   Install the Firewall
   Install the AV

In any of the three Defense+ comes included.
So, in answer to your doubt, If you install the FW as a standalone D+ is coming along (you can disable it later on on the interface if you wish).

Your final interface will look like this (see snapshot)

Offline nattyenigma

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 03:47:24 PM »
hmm..
i understand how to only enable comodo firewall, i understand D+ comes with comodo firewall, so i can enable CIS with defense + firewall portion only. Get that.
proactive security is only delegating me some control. so it doesnt necessarily have to be that to use proactive security feature .. id have to have AV portion of comodo installed.
which means then that i can indeed have Avira 9 and comodo firewall D+ together.. and theoretically not run into problems.
What was that bit about having two systems not taking control of things at the same time? a firewall doing its job well and an independant AV doing its job to tee... is ok right? How often do ppl with this combination encounter issues when installed without overlap of security domains?
Thanks for speedy replies and continued education and enthusiastic support.

josedase

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Re: avira antivir personal and comodo firewall compatibility
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 04:27:06 PM »
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proactive security is only delegating me some control. so it doesnt necessarily have to be that to use proactive security feature .. id have to have AV portion of comodo installed.
      Correct.

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which means then that i can indeed have Avira 9 and comodo firewall D+ together.. and theoretically not run into problems.
      Correct.

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What was that bit about having two systems not taking control of things at the same time?
      You mean like two AV's? At the least it will slow the system down. At the worst it will bring the system down. It happened to me late last year. I installed Norton Internet Security (with FW) and forgot to disable Windows FW. One weak later the PC wouldn't boot. I had to do a system recovery and lost all my data (I bought a portable hard disk since then, and keep nothing personal in the laptop any more).

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a firewall doing its job well and an independant AV doing its job to tee... is ok right?
      Right.

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How often do ppl with this combination encounter issues when installed without overlap of security domains?
      That's for each of us to find out. And that's as well the fun of it.

Regards,
Jose.

 

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