Free or not Free!

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[Arkangyal]

Hey Melih,

I wonder what was the end of the story... Do you plan to release a free version? According to this page -> http://ztl.psoft.net/order.html, i'm confused.

Thanks for your time,

Arki

[Melih]

Hey Melih,

I wonder what was the end of the story... Do you plan to release a free version? According to this page -> http://ztl.psoft.net/order.html, i'm confused.

Thanks for your time,

Arki

of course we are

you must be pyschic!

today we were discussion the launch date etc

Melih

[comicfan2000]

Hi Melih, I understand your thought on this but my goodness, something like this for FREE? I am dang near speechless and as you know, that is no small task! I almost feel like it's taking advantage of Comodo.    I won't question your money making abilities as that scrub Justin did    I know you of all people know how to make decisions like this but FREE? This?? Melih, have you had anything to eat in a while? Is someone at the office spiking your coffee?? Wow. Ok. I am now speechless.


Paul

[Melih]

Hi Melih, I understand your thought on this but my goodness, something like this for FREE? I am dang near speechless and as you know, that is no small task! I almost feel like it's taking advantage of Comodo.    I won't question your money making abilities as that scrub Justin did    I know you of all people know how to make decisions like this but FREE? This?? Melih, have you had anything to eat in a while? Is someone at the office spiking your coffee?? Wow. Ok. I am now speechless.


Paul

oh dear.. did I say ZTL..
dang.. i meant  CPF for free

Melih

[comicfan2000]

oh dear.. did I say ZTL..
dang.. i meant  CPF for free

Melih

ROFLMAO!!

Paul

[Júštiñ™]

Hi Melih, I understand your thought on this but my goodness, something like this for FREE? I am dang near speechless and as you know, that is no small task! I almost feel like it's taking advantage of Comodo.    I won't question your money making abilities as that scrub Justin did    I know you of all people know how to make decisions like this but FREE? This?? Melih, have you had anything to eat in a while? Is someone at the office spiking your coffee?? Wow. Ok. I am now speechless.


Paul

LOL Paul

[AOwL]

Keeping my "trigger finger" ready, so I can push the download button when it gets free...

[Júštiñ™]

Keeping my "trigger finger" ready, so I can push the download button when it gets free...

Your online so much, I would have thought it to always be ready

[AOwL]

Your online so much, I would have thought it to always be ready

Yes, I'm still waiting...

[rgreene501]

Free or not, the interface is well worth $100 a year.

For a small business with no real admin, the web interface gives them controlled exposure to the soft bits.

Besides, if you're too cheap, just keep requesting 30 day demos.   

[Arkangyal]

Free or not, the interface is well worth $100 a year.

For a small business with no real admin, the web interface gives them controlled exposure to the soft bits.

Besides, if you're too cheap, just keep requesting 30 day demos.   

I don't think it's up to "how much it costs", it's a question of "give it away for free and later the users would first try our ssl services" . Anyway, i'd simply create a per machines package (fe. up to 50 or 250 pcs+/- router, etc. it's free).

[cpcnw]

I have used TSL on many occasions. The community version that is. I am also a very big fan of SME server (www.contribs.org) and have been following it for years.

I think Comodo should look at SME and maybe learn some lessons from it ....

For a start, if I post on the Trustix forum I rarely get an answer quickly if at all. In comparison I have had answers to SME questions in minutes. Why is this? Becasue the user base is so big. Why is this? Becasue its free and they have built a huge community on a very solid product and there are alot of people feeding back and helping out. But the strange thing is, money is now starting to roll in because all the people who have been using it for years, and are still using it beleive it is worth donating to, to keep the project alive, and to keep using it. So, now lots of people donat $20 every time they install it.

Thats how a good community project like SME can work. TSL could be like that too. But it has to build a community and listen to that community on feature requests and bug reports.

I think guys like Christian and the other developers are top devs and could demand a job anywhere. But people are people they cannot live on praise alone. We all need recognition. TSL can be get that recognition but the investment has to come in at the beginning, the rewards come later.

Just my 2 pence !!!

[cpcnw]

Melih,

Please contact me about making a donation based verison of TSL or ZTL !

I have about 20 clients all with SME Server right now and am very happy with it but I am *always* interested to see how alternatives would work, how resellers and installers can make a living and how community programs can provide rewards.

My idea is to have a donation version where you can choose to donate $20, $50 etc based on your business plan. If you are a charity or an installer you can donate $20 and support it yourself. If you are a big company you pay more but it is a sliding scale.

SME for me right now is letting me do VPN connections, remote webmail, ftp etc and takes about 20 mins to install and setup with limited (altho I do have considerable) experience. ZTL needs to match it on features before I can say the same. I also would like to know ;

For example, say I wanted to become a reseller / Comodo certified installer in the UK ?

How do I become a small link in the chain?

[Melih]

Melih,

Please contact me about making a donation based verison of TSL or ZTL !

I have about 20 clients all with SME Server right now and am very happy with it but I am *always* interested to see how alternatives would work, how resellers and installers can make a living and how community programs can provide rewards.

My idea is to have a donation version where you can choose to donate $20, $50 etc based on your business plan. If you are a charity or an installer you can donate $20 and support it yourself. If you are a big company you pay more but it is a sliding scale.

SME for me right now is letting me do VPN connections, remote webmail, ftp etc and takes about 20 mins to install and setup with limited (altho I do have considerable) experience. ZTL needs to match it on features before I can say the same. I also would like to know ;

For example, say I wanted to become a reseller / Comodo certified installer in the UK ?

How do I become a small link in the chain?

Hi cpcnw

you can write to Sales[at]comodo.com and tell them u want to become a reseller etc.
you can offer support and charge for the support for the ZTL etc. as well as sell other products we have.

thanks
Melih

[cpcnw]

Out of interest - I just D/L ZTL and intend to review it soon.

The licence I was sent - how long does it last ?

What is the current pricing ?

What is the current situation regarding a community release ?

Thanks

Graham

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