Which Product to develop next?

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[Melih]

exactly...really looking forward for it

ok great.. should be out sometime in June

Melih

[onuracengiz]

ok great.. should be out sometime in June

Melih

with all of these features? 
will there be 2 different versions like pro and normal? (pro-with fee version,normal-free v.)
if yes,what will be their difference/s?

also could you merge our conversation posts into one so others can read it clearly

[Melih]

with all of these features? 
will there be 2 different versions like pro and normal? (pro-with fee version,normal-free v.)
if yes,what will be their difference/s?

also could you merge our conversation posts into one so others can read it clearly

It will be free. (unless something drastic happens..)

Melih

[onuracengiz]

It will be free. (unless something drastic happens..)

Melih

thank you for your time and answers.

[Geri]

Hi!

I've got an idea that I've been working on for a while now: a secure e-mail replacement.

Secure, by getting rid of ye good olde smtp protocol and bring the e-mail platform straight in the 21st century.
Secure also, by the use of cryptography, secure protocols and ....certificates.
Secure also, by making it eaves-drop proof (unless the governments already have a backdoor for modern encryption algorythms).
And secure, because it's spoof-proof.

Furthermore, this solution would get rid of one of the big evils of the digital age: spam. And a surefire way to get rid of it as well, by making e-mail by-invite-only.

I believe this could create quite some opportunities for Comodo, apart from the certificates.

Kind regards,

   Geri

[andyman35]

An interesting concept there,kind of like hushmail on steroids!

[Melih]

Hi!

I've got an idea that I've been working on for a while now: a secure e-mail replacement.

Secure, by getting rid of ye good olde smtp protocol and bring the e-mail platform straight in the 21st century.
Secure also, by the use of cryptography, secure protocols and ....certificates.
Secure also, by making it eaves-drop proof (unless the governments already have a backdoor for modern encryption algorythms).
And secure, because it's spoof-proof.

Furthermore, this solution would get rid of one of the big evils of the digital age: spam. And a surefire way to get rid of it as well, by making e-mail by-invite-only.

I believe this could create quite some opportunities for Comodo, apart from the certificates.

Kind regards,

   Geri

hi Geri

interesting..
have u seen our secure email product?
thanks
melih

[Geri]

Hi Melih,

Yes, I have seen it and it's a big step up from regular mail. But, as far as I was able to tell, it's still based on the SMTP protocol, and therefore, it's inherent flaws. You can see that the person who send you a mail has a certificate, but you'd still get mail from other non-certified sources, meaning you can still receive spam.

My solution would ban spam, spoofing (and a large portion of malware) from ever reaching you. And it would not only be at the enterprise level.

At this moment, due to the leaks in SMTP, corporations and end-users both, invest huge amounts of money in things like spam filters. For corporations it's even worse. Spam already accounts for more than 90% of the email traffic at most companies, not to mention end-users. Even the ISP need to do huge investments to be able to handle the flood of spam.

And why? Because SMTP (still waiting for its successor) has inherent flaws.

Furthermore, people have the notion that e-mail is guaranteed delivery. In the current setup, there is no way to make that happen. I believe that can be solved as well, by using a P2P-like exchange between the mail servers. Encryption can assure that between the servers, there can be no eaves-dropping.

And since people can't even send unsollicited mail (because the server should check whether the addressee wants to receive mail from the sender on forehand), spam won't even be send.

That's the big difference: all current email solutions and protection methods are based on (in your terminology) detection, while the method I describe is based on prevention.


Kind regards,

   Geri

[Melih]

Hi Melih,

Yes, I have seen it and it's a big step up from regular mail. But, as far as I was able to tell, it's still based on the SMTP protocol, and therefore, it's inherent flaws. You can see that the person who send you a mail has a certificate, but you'd still get mail from other non-certified sources, meaning you can still receive spam.

My solution would ban spam, spoofing (and a large portion of malware) from ever reaching you. And it would not only be at the enterprise level.

At this moment, due to the leaks in SMTP, corporations and end-users both, invest huge amounts of money in things like spam filters. For corporations it's even worse. Spam already accounts for more than 90% of the email traffic at most companies, not to mention end-users. Even the ISP need to do huge investments to be able to handle the flood of spam.

And why? Because SMTP (still waiting for its successor) has inherent flaws.

Furthermore, people have the notion that e-mail is guaranteed delivery. In the current setup, there is no way to make that happen. I believe that can be solved as well, by using a P2P-like exchange between the mail servers. Encryption can assure that between the servers, there can be no eaves-dropping.

And since people can't even send unsollicited mail (because the server should check whether the addressee wants to receive mail from the sender on forehand), spam won't even be send.

That's the big difference: all current email solutions and protection methods are based on (in your terminology) detection, while the method I describe is based on prevention.


Kind regards,

   Geri

The issue you have identified is a huge issue, however is it because SMTP has flaws is it because its poorly implemented?

If everyon had a digital certificate and only accepted communication was a digitally signed one, then spam problem would be unnoticable. Hence, I believe its not the protocol but the way it is used is the issue here. But i am open to ideas..

thanks
melih

[Geri]

Hi Melin,

I beg to disagree. Spam in your solution still gets transmitted to the receiving server, not to mention all the servers routing the traffic on the way. It may be unnoticable by the receiver, but all links in between get to deal with it.

The new solution prevents the spam leaving even the machine of the sender. It's a big paradigm shift from what can be achieved with SMTP. Because SMTP just allows people to send mail without even a sender. And as long as badly configured SMTP servers exist, the problem will remain and will be exploited.

Kind regards,

   Geri

[Melih]

Hi Melin,

I beg to disagree. Spam in your solution still gets transmitted to the receiving server, not to mention all the servers routing the traffic on the way. It may be unnoticable by the receiver, but all links in between get to deal with it.

The new solution prevents the spam leaving even the machine of the sender. It's a big paradigm shift from what can be achieved with SMTP. Because SMTP just allows people to send mail without even a sender. And as long as badly configured SMTP servers exist, the problem will remain and will be exploited.

Kind regards,

   Geri

But if all end users had the ability to only accept signed messages, then there would be no point in sending spam? So all that spammers wouldn't spend their time sending spam knowing it aint getting nowhere...Once financial incentive of Spam reaching the users has been eliminated then spammers won't have the desire to send spam.

thanks
Melih

[k.luxman]

Hi great people !
I love  comodo firewall  because its free   
great topic in this forum 'which product to develop next' ?? 

I love to see comodo to develop the software to block unnecessary websites  . so that we'll keep our children to brwse some usefull websites. 

Hope we'll get it soon 

once again....... cheers to you people 

[Melih]

Hi great people !
I love  comodo firewall  because its free   
great topic in this forum 'which product to develop next' ?? 

I love to see comodo to develop the software to block unnecessary websites  . so that we'll keep our children to brwse some usefull websites. 

Hope we'll get it soon 

once again....... cheers to you people 

content filtering?
parental control?

thanks
Melih

[andyman35]

content filtering?
parental control?

thanks
Melih

I'd like to see something similar to peerguardian built into CFP to block known malware/dodgy content sites, this would fit in neatly with your "prevention is better than cure" idealogy.

[Pedro*]

What about "Jack of all trades, master of none"?

I think CFP has to draw a line somewhere andyman35. Just my opinion though.

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