Poll: Comodo Internet Security Suite [Closed]

[Guest]

[Soyabeaner]

Is there an option to have multiple applications, AND have them controlled individually? (ie, no integrated controller/management system at all)

He he he.  I was JUST thinking about this.  I'm sure it can be done.  Within this special installer there should be a stage that also prompts this central controller (like the old LaunchPad) to be installed or not.  Then all sides are covered.

[ZuMa]

Is a good idea, but i would want that they remained available as separate packages (obviously free) of Comodo Antivirus and Comodo Firewall Pro.

 

[Melih]

Is a good idea, but i would want that they remained available as separate packages (obviously free) of Comodo Antivirus and Comodo Firewall Pro.

 

sure of course, thats exactly the point.
seperate apps.. but easier to manage and more efficient. For example.. if you use realtime spyware and realtime AV, they will have many common components.. why have double of them running in your system doing the same thing!? And many more efficiencies like that.

Melih

[wilpower]

If I'm understanding u correctly Melih; this would be similar to the "COMODO Dashboard" I mentioned a while back in a posting under 'Melihs Corner'.
The "seperate" Comodo apps that one has installed  could be accessed from one central "control center".
One could access any of the applications to monitor statistics, review/change settings, modify application behavior etc. without having to engage each individual program....or have I only confused your idea???
I applogize if I have.

[Melih]

If I'm understanding u correctly Melih; this would be similar to the "COMODO Dashboard" I mentioned a while back in a posting under 'Melihs Corner'.
The "seperate" Comodo apps that one has installed  could be accessed from one central "control center".
One could access any of the applications to monitor statistics, review/change settings, modify application behavior etc. without having to engage each individual program....or have I only confused your idea???
I applogize if I have.

its very similar...remember thats why i said... good idea

Melih

[gibran]

Thanks to Melih for posting.

According to his suite definition I posted yes...
But "No" currently result  in more votes .

I would like to hear more about negative  comments.

So I edited a previous post...

Fear of bloatware is not a right choice, also the packaging is not. Neither different interfaces for different services.

I mean... Users who want a minimun size download can have it if the suite is modular. They can choose which services download (eg. only the firewall)

Users who want separate interfaces can have it also, a modular approach could provide one istance of the interface to administrate all the services or many istance to administrate services separately (one istance per service) but is also possible to group some services in one istance and another service in another istance. It's only a matter of creating shortcut links.

Regarding the fear about one service being handicapped if another is not installed it is a matter of design decisions...
I mean If you have a car and you remove the car stereo you cannot hear music...
but if you remove the car strereo and the car engine won't start... that could be the result of a bad design...

A suite could be deployed using:
1. a tiny installer to download only desired components using a broadband connection.
2. a monolithic installer that permit to install only desired components
3. separate installers that could be installed in any combination

The suite name is surely to be assigned to the full installation, but that is only a marketing decision IMHO...

Another thing to note is tha a modular approach and the use of defined set of integration-aware api/protocols could make Comodo set the first stone of a collaborative architecture enabling certified developer or certified application to integrate or extend or (less sure about this) replace the set of services provided by the suite. A full-fledged Standard

[pepoluan]

This makes it sound that if you want multiple applications, they would have to be controlled by the "suite."

Is there an option to have multiple applications, AND have them controlled individually? (ie, no integrated controller/management system at all)

Reminds me back in the days of DOS, Norton Utilities 5 has this "Norton Integrator", a menu to show what utilities NU5 has, with some helpful information (e.g. command line switches). Norton Integrator is selectable/optional to install.

However, I totally buy into Melih's reasoning, i.e. to do a single-install for shared components. And gibran also made a good point there.

[maniac2003]

I like the idea. And yes you should have an option while installing, what to install.

[weaker]

I guess more than the fear of bloat there is fear that things (settings, logs) become hidden somewhere deep in the GUI in exchange for a simple all-in-one-Suite-GUI. That's why users (including me) want individual packages.

Regards,
weaker

[VaMPiRiC_CRoW]

I really would like to have a Comodo program that have the Anti-ViruSpyware, Firewall and Anti-Spam together.

Integrate them to use only one service process, to reduce resources, and a GUI with all the features to interact very easier.

This way a user can choose if wants all the Comodo protection in a single program, or only use one or another Comodo product...

This will add much more work to Comodo developers, but I think that will be a great addiction...

[gibran]

I guess more than the fear of bloat there is fear that things (settings, logs) become hidden somewhere deep in the GUI in exchange for a simple all-in-one-Suite-GUI. That's why users (including me) want individual packages.

Regards,
weaker

Oh! THAT fear...

Heck! we are all speculating on  what the suite will look like...
I don't know a thing about that, yet I thought of a suite that is not evil like usual ones...

It's more like trusting how things will be...

This said, I know I cannot change your mind

but if the real thing will have a modular approach then the Interface section for the firewall could  have a layout like the actual one or better and it would be possible to have an interface per Software too.

The interface is only a way to represent data and to configure settings.

It is not the full thing.

If the log file is written in a standard database format (I guess that some limitation like this are caused by security concerns) we could use a standalone app too.
eg. like  Visual Logparser

Regarding settings, anyone skilled in programming could write a custom interface
using the regedit trick which actually work also when comodo is protecting its registry keys (at least for me)

Regarding realtime connection monitoring  there are programs like cports

The firewall is under the hood...

[gibran]

I really would like to have a Comodo program that have the AntiVirusSpyware, Firewall and AntiSpam together.

Integrate them to use only one service process, to reduce resources, and a GUI with all the features to interact very easier.

This way a user can choose if wants all the Comodo protection in a single program, or only use one or another Comodo product...

This will add much more work to Comodo developers, but I think that will be a great addiction...

A single service would be a bad idea, code reuse need a modular approach the only difference being a marginal  communication overhead.
But consider added benefits like the ability to update only outdated installation services or dlls (shorter download times)

[VaMPiRiC_CRoW]

A single service would be a bad idea, code reuse need a modular approach the only difference being a marginal  communication overhead.
But consider added benefits like the ability to update only outdated installation services or dlls (shorter download times)

You can see the benefits of the new Eset Smart Security that have the features that I had suggested...

Works very well!

[gibran]

Hey!!! that is a Spot!

I may have missed your point but I intended to point out only the advantages of an alternate solution to this

Integrate them to use only one service process, to reduce resources, and a GUI with all the features to interact very easier.

We all now that a single process could be multithreaded so a single process should be slightly  faster and equalliy responsive like a multi service implementation. Verifying several signined  dlls and services could add another little overhead. But we should get more security and overall stability this way...

Using a single service a faulty code crashing would affect all protections...

[VaMPiRiC_CRoW]

It is more difficult, but if is very well done...

And now Comodo team some more experts, so...

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