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Question: Should Comodo combine some or all of their products?
Yes, I like the idea!! - 138 (54.1%)
No Way!! - 117 (45.9%)
Total Voters: 248

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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2007, 09:52:33 AM »

OK, i like the idea. One install for everyone that carries everything.
But i want the option, for me at least (i see others too), to only install one by one, and manage them separately.
Having choice is fine by me. (thumb icon- missing in this forum Smiley)
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2007, 11:09:39 AM »

@Quwen:
The idea for a basic installer was to offer a lower-sized package for those without flatrate and/or broadband. I must admit that I was unaware of the OpenOffice variant. Selecting single components and downloading one installer for those would indeed be the perfect choice. Although it is possibly not too easy to establish such a system.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 11:13:56 AM »

Ok, now how do i put it in the text?
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 01:51:09 AM »

Its a difficult question in some ways. For a lot of 'Novice' users a one click install for AV, AS, Firewall etc. will be a god send. For users with any interest in security, and the numbers are increasing, a combined suite will be less than desirable.

Comodo make some great products, but I wonder if it has the ability to be all things to all people, in terms of security. I am sure, whatever products you decide to make, assuming they follow in the footsteps of the firewall, will be great. But for me, I want best of breed in all areas.

If you decide to go ahead and make a suite, please, please, don't make it inclusive. Allow a user to install whichever components they desire, and don't impose some sort of unified interface.

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2007, 04:13:42 PM »

Amazing!  I didn't expect the votes to be this close to a tie, so I removed the time limit Grin
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2007, 07:14:40 PM »

Well it is now 50/50, soya what are we going to do now?  LOL

I think it should go my way because i said so  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2007, 07:18:02 PM »

I only host this poll, not make wishes come true Tongue

It doesn't matter how long it'll take.  This is going to last until there is a clear answer, say around 7:3 ratio?
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2007, 08:42:32 PM »

I'd like it, if you could choose which utilities you wanted like if you just wanted the CAVS CFW that would be cool Kewl
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2007, 09:04:46 PM »

I choose no, I prefer individual products.
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2007, 08:55:37 AM »

Well, the question is:
What does this suite mean?
1)does it mean that you install and you get everything automatically?
or
2)does it mean that it has a nice really cool interface so that you can choose which products you want to install/manage and use this cool really nice Smiley interface to manage all your security?

Because if its like 2.. then i would like it as i don't have to mess around with multiple interfaces and its not bloatware!

Melih

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I choose option 2 and a client server mechanism with encrypted connections and authentication certificates.
So the client interface can be unloaded from memory if it is not needed an this way the client interface could be connected to one or all comodo services using one or more links as the user see fit

Also an external api/sdk to the interface could be a nice addon...
And a scripting plugin...

I will give Melih as many I can for these features expecially if he enable the option in the forum Grin

But now I don't have a clue...
If I vote for the suite what the result will be?
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2007, 10:20:22 AM »

I said no,

two things come to mind in this instance.

first look at Symantecs all in security suite, it relies heavily on having all components installed to work properly, for example, to have the Firewall  work without problems, still required the AV to be installed. Then if you don't install the AV that they supply, it's a night mare trying to remove the software from the machine. It's almost as bad as some well known malware like spysherriff when it first came out, once it's in, it's hard to make sure you got it all.

Second, I feel that it would be bloat, because you have to re-write the update software to update all the software in the suite, be able to note whether or not something was installed, and then you have the issue where you have to have the software updater connect to different parts of the server for specific software updates. I could be wrong as I don't know how that is currently setup here or at the competition.
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2007, 11:46:44 AM »

Well, well I didn't choose yet. But I would like to hear more about negative  comments.

Fear of bloatware is not a right choice, also the packaging is not. Neither different interfaces for different services.


There is a way to solve many of these issues during the design process.

Maybe it should be created a poll specifying a set of mandatory characteristics...

I mean... Users who want a minimun size download can have it if the suite is modular. They can choose which services download (eg. only the firewall)

Users who want separate interfaces can have it also, a modular approach could provide one istance of the interface to administrate all the services or many istance to administrate services separately (one istance per service) but is also possible to group some services in one istance and another service in another istance. It's only a matter of creating shortcut links.

Regarding the fear about one service being handicapped if another is not installed it is a matter of design decisions...
I mean If you have a car and you remove the car stereo you cannot hear music...
but if you remove the car strereo and the car engine won't start... that could be the result of a bad design...

A suite could be deployed using:
1. a tiny installer to download only desired components using a broadband connection.
2. a monolithic installer that permit to install only desired components
3. separate installers that could be installed in any combination

The suite name is surely to be assigned to the full installation, but that is only a marketing decision IMHO...

Another thing to note is tha a modular approach and the use of defined set of integration-aware api/protocols could make Comodo set the first stone of a collaborative architecture enabling certified developer or certified application to integrate or extend or (less sure about this) replace the set of services provided by the suite. A full-fledged Standard

He who is not using bloatware among you. Let him throw the first flame...
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2007, 12:57:19 PM »

Well, I'm already in a fire...

Halloooo Smiler
you may open the firewall a bit and throw a flame or two to comodo users who didn't choose to install the firewall Tongue

BTW, how much time to the beta release?
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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2007, 01:19:04 PM »

how much time to the beta release?

Ignoring unforseen changes (like the name change), 13 more days.  I guess this is a good place to check for date updates:
http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,6927.0.html
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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2007, 01:22:00 PM »

Bundle it together! With  the ability to disable if not wanted. Everybody's satisfied then, right?   Tongue
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