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Frosty Port
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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May 05, 2008, 12:10:17 AM »
I under stand thank for your answer
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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May 05, 2008, 08:42:53 AM »
Quote from: Frosty Port on May 04, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
does this also include SafeSpace also or is SafeSpace on a different level ?
Safespace is a type of sandbox/partial virtualisation app.,similar in certain ways to Sandboxie so, *in theory* it should contain any online malware,if running a web browser within it and prevent any access to your 'real system'.Returnil 'clones' the entire system and offers no additional protection against single session malware,as has been stated.
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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Quote from: Melih on May 04, 2008, 11:32:12 AM
not sure if v1 will have that or not..
can u pls explain the benefit of this?
thanks
melih
Simple. I assume you are familiar with how snapshots in virtual machine works?
This is the same except it is all done on your real computer.
Basically, you can create multiple snapshots that you can go back to. So say you create a snapshot A just before you install a program. Then you install the program and create a snapshot B. Then you can go back to snapshot A.
At anytime you can also go back to snapshot A,b etc.. create more snapshots etc..
See eaz-fix. You generally need only very little hard-disk storage space for each snapshot because of some technical trickery.
Technically this is not quite the same but far more powerful than retunril like products...
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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Quote from: Luketan on May 08, 2008, 10:36:44 AM
Simple. I assume you are familiar with how snapshots in virtual machine works?
This is the same except it is all done on your real computer.
Basically, you can create multiple snapshots that you can go back to. So say you create a snapshot A just before you install a program. Then you install the program and create a snapshot B. Then you can go back to snapshot A.
At anytime you can also go back to snapshot A,b etc.. create more snapshots etc..
See eaz-fix. You generally need only very little hard-disk storage space for each snapshot because of some technical trickery.
Technically this is not quite the same but far more powerful than retunril like products...
yes this is totally different product cos likes of returnil etc does not store an image as such..
they simply ignore any future modifications from a point onward.
So for this, one would have to create a new ability to store multiple images, which is a totally new products..
we have put that in our wishlist to discuss.
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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May 08, 2008, 06:04:45 PM »
Hi guys, if Melihs' dev team come out with something as good as Sandboxie without the necessity of reboots to
clear the virtual environment and you use an excellent free program like Androsa File Protector at 256 bit encryption
as I do for your sensitive files along with CPF v3.0 and the eventual final CAV v3.0 I suspect everybody will have
achieved a perfectly safe environment in which to surf the net IMHO, agreed Melih?
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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Quote from: Xman on May 08, 2008, 06:04:45 PM
Hi guys, if Melihs' dev team come out with something as good as Sandboxie without the necessity of reboots to
clear the virtual environment and you use an excellent free program like Androsa File Protector at 256 bit encryption
as I do for your sensitive files along with CPF v3.0 and the eventual final CAV v3.0 I suspect everybody will have
achieved a perfectly safe environment in which to surf the net IMHO, agreed Melih?
Regds
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andyman35
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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Quote from: Melih on May 08, 2008, 11:08:26 AM
yes this is totally different product cos likes of returnil etc does not store an image as such..
they simply ignore any future modifications from a point onward.
So for this, one would have to create a new ability to store multiple images, which is a totally new products..
we have put that in our wishlist to discuss.
thanks
melih
It wouldn't need to be a totally new product,something along the lines of Rollback RX perhaps?
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Quote from: andyman35 on May 09, 2008, 07:43:56 AM
It wouldn't need to be a totally new product,something along the lines of Rollback RX perhaps?
New? in terms of functionality not existing in other products? No heavens not. Comodo doesn't produce many new security products per se in terms of functionalty (and yes rollback rx is one of the products with the functionality I am referring to)
It is however DIFFERENT from the retunril like product they are thinking of releasing soon. So they can't just tag it on quickly.
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May 25, 2008, 08:36:03 AM »
There would be benefits to adopting a 'rollback' functionality rather than the good,but limited, Returnil option.The convenience of creating multiple snapshots would be a big plus.
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Quote from: andyman35 on May 25, 2008, 08:36:03 AM
There would be benefits to adopting a 'rollback' functionality rather than the good,but limited, Returnil option.The convenience of creating multiple snapshots would be a big plus.
Sure there are benefits (I was the one who asked about the feature remember?).
Melieh's point is that it is not just a simple extension of retunril features, so it is not a simple matter to add.
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The product is out : Great job Comodo
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Quote from: eXPerience on June 05, 2008, 01:26:24 PM
The product is out : Great job Comodo
Xan
Download from where?
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Quote from: Vettetech on June 05, 2008, 01:33:21 PM
Download from where?
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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Hail to the Emperor
Commodus I need your help with Returnil. How do I have a session or a folder in Returnil? Believe me when I said this I have spent 4 hours last night trying to figure this out, to no avail. HELP I'm losing my head on this.
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Re: Virtualization (Returnil)
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September 30, 2008, 08:00:52 PM »
I don't use it, so I forgot all about it
Sorry
I think it would be best to carefully read the help files and visit the forums
http://www.castlecops.com/f288-Returnil_Virtual_System_Release.html
I have wanted to use such software, but it got on my nerves
Have you tried COMODO's DiskShield ? Some say it's a lot better
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