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Offline smilingralph

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 11:05:49 PM »
Whoa Nellie. Don't get me wrong, I think CRC has the potential to be a great product. But to compare it to other registry cleaners purely on the basis of number of "invalid" entries is just wrong. I've used many registry cleaners, some of which would easily find two to three times the number of "invalid" entries as CRC. Unfortunately, removing these would result in having to reinstall the OS. With any registry cleaner the bottom line is safety, not how many entries it finds. CRC found 305 "safe to remove" problems with my registry. Cleaning them left my HP all-in-one nonfunctional. Fortunately, the CRC backup restore function returned things to normal. Rerunning CRC and un-checking all HP entries then running the cleaner seemed to speed up my computer a bit. I think to be a great registry cleaner CRC needs to concentrate more on safety and less on number of errors found.

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2008, 03:02:47 AM »
CRC found 305 "safe to remove" problems with my registry. Cleaning them left my HP all-in-one nonfunctional. Fortunately, the CRC backup restore function returned things to normal. Rerunning CRC and un-checking all HP entries then running the cleaner seemed to speed up my computer a bit. I think to be a great registry cleaner CRC needs to concentrate more on safety and less on number of errors found.

This is very important feedback for Comodo as CRC really aims to be a safe reg-cleaner. Any chance you could post more details (preferably in a new topic)? Were those HP entries considered by CRC as safe or unsafe to remove? Thank you.

LA

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2008, 06:00:51 AM »
CRC: found 83 errors

Argente Registry Cleaner: found 217 errors

CRC may be good\safe, but after cleaning, others still find basic errors, like items refering to removed programs or files. In other words, there is still room for improved detection for CRC.

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2008, 09:25:54 AM »
Is there anyway of adding RegSeeker to your comparison test? I've used a number of reg cleaners, including RegScrubXP and CCleaner and found RegSeeker to be the better.     

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 11:35:26 AM »
Will test it against CCleaner, Ace Utilites (it has a registry cleaning function, but I basically use it for its nice start-up manager) and RegSeeker. ;)

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Ragwing

EDIT: Okay, here's the results:

CRC 41

RegSeeker 34

Ace Utilities 2

CCleaner 1


The 41 entries found by CRC weren't found by the others. 19 of the detected entries were flagged as 'unsafe', and couldn't be deleted.
Couldn't test the compact feature though... :D
« Last Edit: September 19, 2008, 11:47:53 AM by Ragwing »

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 02:10:31 PM »
Sounds good. Will be looking forward to the other product as well! I had a general question about CRC. Do you suggest running it every time a program is uninstalled or updated to keep things tidy?

Thanks for the feedback KoRn.

There are many confusions out there thinking that removing one or two registry will speed up the computer. The issue is not one or two registry entries but one or two "problem" registry entries that could be causing the system behave less than optimum. By eliminating these bottlenecks you elimate the delays you are facing hence notice the speed up.  There are so many applications out there who leave things behind that causes your PC to behave in a non-optimum way and Registry cleaning is one of getting rid off that.

We do have a file cleaner coming very soon too! This will clean up all your temp files etc etc to keep your computer in top shape!

Its important for us to help you have a "healthy", "efficient", "secure" and "TRUSTED" computing session!

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 11:35:33 AM »
To KoRn, you should run it after uninstallations (and after a reboot following them, because some files are not deleted until you reboot).  About updates, same thing.

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 11:58:49 AM »
So apart from compacting mode is this safe? How can you be sure when tuneup utilities scans 56 reg probs comodo 500+ ( not that I know tuneup is safe)? Just had to put my PC back to factory settings the best speed up I've done.

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2008, 02:09:48 AM »
Speaking of safety, Just one thing I'd like to say about file cleaners....

I use CCleaner on all my PCs, it works great and I have never had it delete anything I didn't want it to - take my case for example:

I use GB-PVR (mediacenter program) to record TV Shows. By default the directory is "C:\Temp" - Yes I know, not the most clever location but I can't be bothered changing it.

As a result I have a lot of stuff in there eg: "C:\Temp\CSI Miami\CSI Miami_20080710_20302130.mpg" etc etc... but absolutely no temporary files.

Just to let you know... if you guys do decide to make a junk file cleaner.. watch out for things like this!!

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 04:31:27 PM »
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I would like to see a comparison of registry cleaners that includes Registry FirstAid. I have used this program for 3 or 4 years and feel like it is the best registry cleaner out there. It has 3 levels of registry error categories, green for safe, yellow for caution, and red for unsafe removal. By default, it only removes the green safe entries. It doesn't remove all of them, though. Some are grayed out and cannot be removed. I assume they are in areas of the registry that cannot be modified. I don't know why they are even included on the safe list. I notice that sometimes after cleaning only the green safe entries, a DOS window pops up after reboot and lists about 15 or 20 entries that cannot be found. These entries don't have any effect that I can tell on any programs or devices. I don't know why some safe registry errors that are removed have this effect. I have been running CRC on 3 Vista machines for the last 10 days or so without any problems at all. I like the easy-to-use interface that is laid out similar to all the other Comodo programs. CRC finds and removes more registry errors than Registry FirstAid. But running Registry FirstAid right after running CRC, Registry FirstAid still usually finds and removes about a hundred registry errors that CRC didn't identify or remove. My own personal comparison of the programs indicates that CRC finds and removes more registry errors, but Registry FirstAid finds different registry errors that CRC doesn't find. I wonder if the safety for removal of these additional registry errors that Registry FirstAid finds might be suspect, based on the DOS window that pops up listing files that cannot be found? Anyway, I think CRC is a great product, with some bugs to be worked out for Windows XP machines. This is just another product to add to the list of great products that Comodo has developed over the last several years. I started using the Comodo Firewall Pro immediately when it came out for Vista and it is superb. Now with the Beta releases of CIS, you have taken security to the next level. Keep up the excellent work, as it is very much appreciated. To have a security suite that does what it is supposed to do and is not a resource hog is wonderful. I had a license for ZoneAlarm Security Suite when I was running XP, and it worked well. When they finally came out with their security suite for Vista, my license covered the upgrade. I installed it and ran it for about a week, but the resource usage was totally unacceptable. I uninstalled it and ran just their free firewall until Comodo came out with their firewall for Vista. I ran several free anti-virus programs during the time that Comodo was developing their CAVS3 and CIS. Now I am straight Comodo for my security, except that I also run SpywareBlaster. I look forward to the integration of CMF and BOClean into CIS in the future.

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2008, 04:38:33 PM »
larlyles, thank you for your post. Please note, the readability would be much improved if you put blank rows between paragraphs in suitable places... You takes us from a comparison with Registry FirstAid to CIS & ZoneAlarm, and finally integration of CMF into CIS. That's quite a journey! ;)

Thanks

LA

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2008, 11:27:25 AM »
RegSeeker is one of the ones that screwed up my system when I tried it.

I think it is missing the point to compare registry cleaners on the basis of how many problems they claim to find. I could write one that cleans more entries than CRC, but I doubt if Windows would run after it...

I suspect that the reason some established products don't seem to perform so well on that basis is because after being threatened to be sued so many times for screwing up people's systems, the manufacturers have toned them down a lot.

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2008, 04:23:23 PM »
How is the comparison in terms of specificity? The only harm these softwares can do is related to the low specificity in making detections. I mean: it is not linke an antivirus where you do more harm if you leave an unknown positive instead of deleting it. If you delete false positives in the registry that means messing something that could be crucial to a program or to the OS.

And how is it that comparison supposed to be not biased if it's made by comodo?
« Last Edit: September 30, 2008, 04:27:53 PM by ankalagon »

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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2008, 06:10:38 PM »
I too would like to see a comparison of CRC and TuneUp 2008.
Any 'fair' comparison must include as many out there as possible that are currently being used.
(sorry, I use TuneUp 2008 as my registry cleaner).


There is a very big difference between tune up utilities 2008 and CRC! when I scanned my system tune up 2008 only found 10 problems.... But when I scanned with CRC it found... do not be shocked.... it found... ok I tell you... it found more than 1000 invalid registry entries!  ??? :o 88) :-\

This just blew my mind in an instance and I do not understand the huge difference... I am afraid to let CRC delete all those entries.... there is not much info about the entries and I do not want to damage my windows installation....
« Last Edit: September 30, 2008, 06:13:32 PM by triple x »
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Re: Check out the comparison for our Registry cleaning vs others..
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2008, 04:13:06 PM »
There is a very big difference between tune up utilities 2008 and CRC! when I scanned my system tune up 2008 only found 10 problems.... But when I scanned with CRC it found... do not be shocked.... it found... ok I tell you... it found more than 1000 invalid registry entries!  ??? :o 88) :-\

This just blew my mind in an instance and I do not understand the huge difference... I am afraid to let CRC delete all those entries.... there is not much info about the entries and I do not want to damage my windows installation....
Never fear! System Restore is here. Just be sure to leave the Unsafe Entries unchecked so that they won't be removed.

 

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