Should I Be Worried? Because I AM...

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[Maxxwire]

Comodo + Sandboxie leaves any Antivirus precious little to do but update its database.

~Maxx~

[BTJustice]

If CIS is so good then it would preform better in the tests.  Sorry.

[Maxxwire]

Sorry for your ancient Antivirus protected computer because how well Comodo performs depends on which tests you choose to use for evaluation. In the highly regarded Matousec Proactive Security Challenge which perfectly suits its excellent quality HIPS detection Comodo has scored 100% for months on end with all other security suites tested having an inferior score...



Since I am one of the many computer users who have not used an Antivirus software in many years with no detection of Malware of any kind on any of my computers Antivirus test scores are completely useless although they may be somewhat useful if you are still trying to protect your computer with antiquated 20th Century bloated blacklist Antivirus software.

~Maxx~

[BTJustice]

Sorry for your ancient Antivirus protected computer because how well Comodo performs depends on which tests you choose to use for evaluation. In the highly regarded Matousec Proactive Security Challenge which perfectly suits its excellent quality HIPS detection Comodo has scored 100% for months on end with all other security suites tested having an inferior score...



Since I am one of the many computer users who have not used an Antivirus software in many years with no detection of Malware of any kind on any of my computers Antivirus test scores are completely useless although they may be somewhat useful if you are still trying to protect your computer with antiquated 20th Century bloated blacklist Antivirus software.

~~Maxx~~

And in the latest test, CIS dropped to 94%.  And the next product ranked at 86% is said to be "VERY GOOD".  86% is not very good.

If CIS does worse and worse then the Matousec test will not be as highly regarded just like CIS's history in other tests it use to do well in.

[kail]

And in the latest test, CIS dropped to 94%. 

CIS has not dropped.. I believe that's CIS's initial test score. That's the 64bit test that you're looking at there. Whereas Maxxwire posted the 32bit test scores (not all firewalls support 64bit yet).

And the next product ranked at 86% is said to be "VERY GOOD".  86% is not very good.

It is very good according to Matousec.. but, I do believe that their 64bit test is very tough/hard. I certainly don't think they expected any product to get as high as 94% on the 64bit test this early. It took awhile for any product to reach 94% on their original 32bit test.

[BTJustice]

CIS has not dropped.. I believe that's CIS's initial test score. That's the 64bit test that you're looking at there. Whereas Maxxwire posted the 32bit test scores (not all firewalls support 64bit yet).
It is very good according to Matousec.. but, I do believe that their 64bit test is very tough/hard. I certainly don't think they expected any product to get as high as 94% on the 64bit test this early. It took awhile for any product to reach 94% on their original 32bit test.

Yes it did drop.  94% in the latest test is less than the 100% in the old test Maxxwire pictured...

http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/

"Proactive Security Challenge has been replaced with Proactive Security Challenge 64!"

So you are saying the firewall that comes with CIS 64-bit doesn't support 64-bit?

Now I like CIS and it is currently installed on many of my personal and client PCs, but it is somewhat alarming that other tests rank CIS low.

[kail]

Yes it did drop.  94% in the latest test is less than the 100% in the old test Maxxwire pictured...

http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/ ..

CIS has not dropped on either the 32bit test or the 64bit test. Follow my links & please check again (read the text if you wish). CIS's first and only score for the 64bit was and is 94%. So, it couldn't have dropped.. it's only been tested once.

If you follow the "Proactive Security Challenge has been replaced with Proactive Security Challenge 64!" then obviously that will take you to the 64bit test page, skipping the 32bit test results below that link (what Maxxwire posted).

So you are saying the firewall that comes with CIS 64-bit doesn't support 64-bit?

No, I am not saying that. I'm not sure how CIS would get 94% on the 64bit test if it didn't support 64bit. Where did you read that in my post?

Now I like CIS and it is currently installed on many of my personal and client PCs, but it is somewhat alarming that other tests rank CIS low.

Sorry, I really don't know what you're looking at. CIS scored 100% on the 32bit test and 94% on the 64bit test. Putting CIS in first place for both tests.. hardly a low rank or alarming.

[BTJustice]

CIS has not dropped on either the 32bit test or the 64bit test. Follow my links & please check again (read the text if you wish). CIS's first and only score for the 64bit was and is 94%. So, it couldn't have dropped.. it's only been tested once.

The 32-bit test is no longer valid as the 32-bit test has been replaced with the 64-bit test.

If you follow the "Proactive Security Challenge has been replaced with Proactive Security Challenge 64!" then obviously that will take you to the 64bit test page, skipping the 32bit test results below that link (what Maxxwire posted).

And once again those are no longer valid.  The last 32-bit test was done on February 17, 2011 when CIS was version 5.3.176757.1236 and now it is 5.10.228257.2253...

http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/reports/PSC%20report%20-%20Comodo%20Internet%20Security%205.3.176757.1236.pdf

No, I am not saying that. I'm not sure how CIS would get 94% on the 64bit test if it didn't support 64bit. Where did you read that in my post?

When you said "(not all firewalls support 64bit yet)."  Why mention that if CIS already does?

Sorry, I really don't know what you're looking at. CIS scored 100% on the 32bit test and 94% on the 64bit test. Putting CIS in first place for both tests.. hardly a low rank or alarming.

As I linked to before...

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/vendor?id=94

1 Pass / 5 Fails

http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/test-reports/janfeb-2012/

CIS not even tested.

http://www.westcoastlabs.com/checkmark/productList/?vendorID=120

Nothing recent from Comodo since Comodo AntiVirus v4.0

[kail]

I'm not going to argue with you, be alarmed then.

[BTJustice]

I'm not going to argue with you, be alarmed then.

It's not an argument.  The whole reason I started this thread was asking why CIS was failing these other tests.  I had kind of hoped CIS would step up it's game and start winning at them instead of just getting hyped up.  Please read the entire thread again.

[kail]

It's not an argument.  The whole reason I started this thread was asking why CIS was failing these other tests.  I had kind of hoped CIS would step up it's game and start winning at them instead of just getting hyped up.  Please read the entire thread again.

Matousec's 32bit tests are not valid you say.. multiple times. The 32bit test results are still valid because not all firewalls (excluding CIS) support 64bit yet. Read Matousec's web site, they never said anything was invalid. CIS has dropped you say, multiple times. This is why I first posted.. because CIS hasn't dropped. Then you seamlessly switch from Matousec's firewall test results to AV results, imply that I've not read this topic & drop the accusation of hyping. I'll leave the hyping to others thanks, I'm done.

PS CIS's Matousec 64bit tests results have not dropped.

[Cassette]

It's really pretty simple. Matousec came up with a new test and Comodo got 94% on this new test. Same organization....different test.

[BTJustice]

Matousec's 32bit tests are not valid you say.. multiple times. The 32bit test results are still valid because not all firewalls (excluding CIS) support 64bit yet. Read Matousec's web site, they never said anything was invalid. CIS has dropped you say, multiple times. This is why I first posted.. because CIS hasn't dropped. Then you seamlessly switch from Matousec's firewall test results to AV results, imply that I've not read this topic & drop the accusation of hyping. I'll leave the hyping to others thanks, I'm done.

PS CIS's Matousec 64bit tests results have not dropped.

http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/

Matousec said they replaced the test.  I cannot explain it any simpler than that.  That usually means the results of replaced tests can no longer be valid unless we were all still using CIS 5.3x and 32-bit OSes.  You claim it is still valid and CIS has not dropped.  You will have to explain then why CIS didn't drop though it went from 100% to 94%.  I am sorry but that is a 6% drop.

It's really pretty simple. Matousec came up with a new test and Comodo got 94% on this new test. Same organization....different test.

That's what I have been trying to say.  The old test is no longer valid if it is no longer being performed and has been replaced with a new test.

Same organization....different test....different/lower result....

[Cassette]

Yes, 94 is lower than 100, but that doesn't mean the protection is worse. Given that this new test tests more things than the old test, it is likely that had this new test been done on the older versions that got 100%, their results would be lower than the 94% that Comodo most recently received. Of course that is just my speculation, but it illustrates why you cannot compare these results to the results from the old test.

[BTJustice]

Yes, 94 is lower than 100, but that doesn't mean the protection is worse. Given that this new test tests more things than the old test, it is likely that had this new test been done on the older versions that got 100%, their results would be lower than the 94% that Comodo most recently received. Of course that is just my speculation, but it illustrates why you cannot compare these results to the results from the old test.

Of course that cannot be answered unless the new test is run on the same CIS version and virus signature database used in the old test.  Anything regardless would be speculative.

Like I have said throughout these 4 pages so far... I WANT CIS TO SUCCEED!!!

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