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Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« on: September 23, 2011, 05:56:58 AM »

Hello,

Why is Comodo not using Minifilters instead of hooks?
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 06:28:41 PM »

If you miss things, you should choose them Smiley
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 09:14:57 PM »

Define minifilters as Wikipedia has no such listing.
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 04:56:06 AM »

I am mainly referring to minifilters as defined here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg462968

and discussed e.g. here:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7449397/minifilter-vs-api-hooking-for-file-system-operations-monitoring-filtering
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 05:29:25 AM »

Why are they important?
What product does use this?
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 06:22:56 AM »

Why are they important?
What product does use this?

They are important because on x64 windows it is not possible to use hooks to the same extent as on x32, so currently comodo running on x64 windows is not as good as on x32. Minifilters are the standard way of doing things, and allow comodo to perform the same on both architectures.

Currently, it is all microsoft products (windows defender, microsoft security essentials) and preview versions of Agnitum and NOD32 products.
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 06:26:23 AM »

This clarifies your question Smiley .... should have been part of the initial post.
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 06:29:45 AM »

This clarifies your question Smiley .... should have been part of the initial post.

The original post is mainly aimed at comodo developers who should hopefully already know about this issue...
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2011, 06:38:15 AM »

You write in the open forum.
And people read and wonder Wink
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 02:02:40 AM »

Please take note of the latest beta as it currentlyly offers the same level of protection in both the x64 and the x32.
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 04:31:01 AM »

Please take note of the latest beta as it currentlyly offers the same level of protection in both the x64 and the x32.

x64 bit is more common now and soon will surpass x32 I think, and John, am sure it was said to be improved and not the same?
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 06:57:21 PM »

x64 bit is more common now and soon will surpass x32 I think, and John, am sure it was said to be improved and not the same?

If wasn't for crap netbooks the x64 only era would be upon us since a long ago...
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 06:59:43 PM »

If you would look at the other post on version 5.8 Eggman says version 5.8 64 bit defense is equal to the 32 bit defense.
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 07:38:18 PM »

If you would look at the other post on version 5.8 Eggman says version 5.8 64 bit defense is equal to the 32 bit defense.

specially good now against key-logger
http://www.spyshelter.com/download/AntiTest.exe
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Re: Comodo not using Minifilters - why
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2011, 04:42:46 AM »

If you would look at the other post on version 5.8 Eggman says version 5.8 64 bit defense is equal to the 32 bit defense.

Okay thanks for clearing that up, I was meaning with current 5.5 version, but it's nice to see 5.8 is equal.... way to go Comodo!  Grin
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