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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2010, 11:53:02 AM »

I don't really think performance processing is needed. What is needed is the ability for cis to automatically terminate processes that got spawned by files that were run in the sandbox. By that I mean this:

Lets say you run a application, call it App-A, it gets run in sandbox automatically.

Then it spawns another process lets day CMD call it App-B.

Now a few things can happen, a user can terminate the original process (App-), it can be terminated by a Buffer Flow Attack dialog, Cloud Av, Cloud Behavior Blocker or D+.

What happens now is that App-A is closed but App-B is left running, what you want to happen is that once CIS realizes App-A has been closed it should automatically terminate App-B, because the parent process is not gone.

This will solve the issue with leftover things running in memory without having to restart. Or another thing that could happen is that CIS gives you a pop up saying "Original application is closed but the applications it opened are running in memory, please restart to clear out the left over processes."
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2010, 01:10:31 PM »

I don't really think performance processing is needed.

+1    I don't want CIS to add all kinds of stuff outside the realm of malware protection.
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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2010, 01:41:30 PM »

Just an idea: when i have tested, a lot of malware running in sandbox eat a lot of resources and slowdown the PC (like in video)

May be it can be a idea to make an option button in setting that can be:

"auto kill resource eater program running in the sandbox".



May be when malware process is terminated, all of its spawned process should be terminated automatically.
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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2010, 02:02:37 PM »

+1    I don't want CIS to add all kinds of stuff outside the realm of malware protection.

we have the luxury of Free!

We don't have to put all sorts of unnecessary and unrelated stuff to try to justify all that money user has paid! Other fee paid providers are forced to do that.

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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2010, 02:09:32 PM »

we have the luxury of Free!

We don't have to put all sorts of unnecessary and unrelated stuff to try to justify all that money user has paid! Other fee paid providers are forced to do that.

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Thanks.  Personally, I would rather CIS stay as lean as possible, rather than see it add spam protection, parental controls, backup, and other bloat.  If I want to add that stuff, there are add-ons available.
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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2010, 02:13:05 PM »

I don't really think performance processing is needed. What is needed is the ability for cis to automatically terminate processes that got spawned by files that were run in the sandbox. By that I mean this:

Lets say you run a application, call it App-A, it gets run in sandbox automatically.

Then it spawns another process lets day CMD call it App-B.

Now a few things can happen, a user can terminate the original process (App-), it can be terminated by a Buffer Flow Attack dialog, Cloud Av, Cloud Behavior Blocker or D+.

What happens now is that App-A is closed but App-B is left running, what you want to happen is that once CIS realizes App-A has been closed it should automatically terminate App-B, because the parent process is not gone.

This will solve the issue with leftover things running in memory without having to restart. Or another thing that could happen is that CIS gives you a pop up saying "Original application is closed but the applications it opened are running in memory, please restart to clear out the left over processes."
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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2010, 02:14:46 PM »

vote for my idea https://forums.comodo.com/wishlist-cis/left-over-process-change-needed-w-poll-t62028.0.html;viewResults=
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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2010, 02:28:53 PM »

we have the luxury of Free!

We don't have to put all sorts of unnecessary and unrelated stuff to try to justify all that money user has paid! Other fee paid providers are forced to do that.

Melih



Norton was better in this video  Tongue
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2010, 03:03:52 PM »

Challange to Symantec from Comodo CEO

time has come....

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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2010, 03:45:46 PM »



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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2010, 06:00:01 PM »


Just don't challenge him to a test of usability, especially on machines with games.  I just installed CIS on my gaming machine, and it has interfered in some shape or form on every game I have tried so far.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2010, 06:06:15 PM »

Just don't challenge him to a test of usability, especially on machines with games.  I just installed CIS on my gaming machine, and it has interfered in some shape or form on every game I have tried so far.

I can make a very usable security product if you want.....
You just say the word.....

it won't protect...but you know what...it will be very usable... Smiley

Security product's duty is to protect!

So instead of creating marketing FUD, Comodo decided to offer "PROTECTION" first. Now that we have achieved that, usability is something we are working on and with CIS v5 we have created a top notch "protection" with a very usable product. But this is only the start.... other AV products have to start with "protection" ...something we already have solved Wink

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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2010, 06:14:34 PM »

Just don't challenge him to a test of usability, especially on machines with games.  I just installed CIS on my gaming machine, and it has interfered in some shape or form on every game I have tried so far.

I tried to run GuildWars with CIS v5 default settings without Game Mode. Guild Wars auto-update itself and do a bunch of operations before starting the game. It didn't work very well with sandbox, D+ and all...

I deleted the previous rules CIS added, I enabled Game Mode, restarted GuildWars, and everything worked perfectly fine.
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2010, 06:17:53 PM »

I can make a very usable security product if you want.....
You just say the word.....

it won't protect...but you know what...it will be very usable... Smiley



What good is being protected if you can't use your PC?  lol  Sure, I know the hoops to jump through to get my games to work, but a lot of people don't.  There has to be a balance.
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2010, 06:23:16 PM »


What good is being protected if you can't use your PC?  lol  Sure, I know the hoops to jump through to get my games to work, but a lot of people don't.  There has to be a balance.

lol....
considering the millions of people who installed CIS, i guess its safe to say that its working for them Wink and with CIS v5, this number has jumped drastically!!!!

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