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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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May 07, 2012, 07:55:54 AM »
I don´t understand.
You say that CIS is a good antivirus because it prevents new viruses.
But if it´s to remove threats on a pc, the results are not good......... I don´t understand.
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CIS's strength is in preventing and stopping virus attacks.
CSC is the cleaner to remove them.
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Quote from: John Buchanan on May 07, 2012, 08:01:39 AM
CIS's strength is in preventing and stopping virus attacks.
CSC is the cleaner to remove them.
Maybe you wanted to say that CCE or CRD are for cleaning?
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Quote from: John Buchanan on May 07, 2012, 08:01:39 AM
CIS's strength is in preventing and stopping virus attacks.
CSC is the cleaner to remove them.
So, I need 2 programs for clean and prevent virus.
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Using CIS is enough for prevention.
In case you already have infected machine, use CCE (or CRD if booting into Windows is not possible) to clean it.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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The question is a variation on your other question:
Quote from: EricJH on March 31, 2012, 08:37:15 PM
CIS cleaning capabilities may not be great but they surely exist.
That being said.There is malware around that requires more advanced cleaning and that's where Comodo Cleaning Essentials or for very severe cases Comodo Rescue Disk come in.
Notice that other security vendors have rescue disks as well. Comodo decided to have more advanced cleaning separated from the Internet Security suite.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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Quote from: EricJH on May 07, 2012, 10:24:10 AM
The question is a variation on your other question:That being said.There is malware around that requires more advanced cleaning and that's where Comodo Cleaning Essentials or for very severe cases Comodo Rescue Disk come in.
Notice that other security vendors have rescue disks as well. Comodo decided to have more advanced cleaning separated from the Internet Security suite.
For me.........It would be amazing if you join CIS and CCE in a single program.
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Quote from: minegroasprilla on May 07, 2012, 11:14:54 AM
It would be amazing if you join CIS and CCE in a single program.
if a product fails to protect you, how can you expect it to clean it for you?
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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Quote from: minegroasprilla on May 07, 2012, 11:14:54 AM
It would be amazing if you join CIS and CCE in a single program.
No, no no!
Just to pass this fancy test? We should not connect 2 very different tools just because someone want to. There is no single logic reason to do that and it has been proven many times.
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Quote from: Melih on May 07, 2012, 07:30:32 AM
CIS is included in ISO certified testing like ICSA.
Testing organisations like AV-comparatives are NOT ISO certified!
Practically there is no difference between a user doing a test releasing it vs av-comparatives imo and I trust end users' because they are not getting paid unlike AV-Comparatives which charges a lot of money. (oh they also try to bully the vendors). So any educated user will know to trust ISO certified proper testing organisations, I believe Symantec also pulled out of Av-comparatives.
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That they take a fee as a payment is not the problem but they add a bill was not a part of the deal that a problem. I don't take any test 100% serious; you never know if the AV-product had "a bad day" and people have to make their own opinion what's best for them.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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Quote from: minegroasprilla on May 07, 2012, 11:14:54 AM
For me.........It would be amazing if you join CIS and CCE in a single program.
One quick question for you...
Why would you want CIS and CCE in a single program, if CIS is enough to protect your PC and keep it clean from malware?
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May 08, 2012, 09:55:06 AM »
Quote from: Melih on May 07, 2012, 07:30:32 AM
CIS is included in ISO certified testing like ICSA.
Testing organisations like AV-comparatives are NOT ISO certified!
Practically there is no difference between a user doing a test releasing it vs av-comparatives imo and I trust end users' because they are not getting paid unlike AV-Comparatives which charges a lot of money. (oh they also try to bully the vendors). So any educated user will know to trust ISO certified proper testing organisations, I believe Symantec also pulled out of Av-comparatives.
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Melih you CAN NOT expect your response to be taken seriously!! I ask why CIS isn't part of what many people consider to be the best
protection
test around, and you refer to to a
detection
just because it is ISO certified, after MANY posts stating that
detection is not important
. Not only that, but CIS is
only
certified by ICSA for Desktop/Server Antivirus
Detection
under Win7 32bit, and there appears to be no way to compare ICSA results for different AVs.
Seeing that you insist that ISO certified tests are the only ones that can be trusted, and you claim that CIS provides the best protection available,
are there any ISO certified protection tests that support your claim?
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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May 08, 2012, 11:25:09 AM »
Quote from: MartiusD on May 08, 2012, 09:55:06 AM
Melih you CAN NOT expect your response to be taken seriously!! I ask why CIS isn't part of what many people consider to be the best
protection
test around, and you refer to to a
detection
just because it is ISO certified, after MANY posts stating that
detection is not important
. Not only that, but CIS is
only
certified by ICSA for Desktop/Server Antivirus
Detection
under Win7 32bit, and there appears to be no way to compare ICSA results for different AVs.
Seeing that you insist that ISO certified tests are the only ones that can be trusted, and you claim that CIS provides the best protection available,
are there any ISO certified protection tests that support your claim?
Even AV-Comparatives admitted that they couldn't test CIS and that is public. They simply cannot test CIS and its protection capability and this is public. So you are misinformed when you talk about "protection" test.....
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
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May 08, 2012, 11:59:53 AM »
Quote from: Melih on May 08, 2012, 11:25:09 AM
Even AV-Comparatives admitted that they couldn't test CIS
Any links to their statement, please.
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Quote from: Solarlynx on May 08, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
Any links to their statement, please.
I'm not 100% sure, but it might be this..
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About the whole product test, we would like to see you in, but, and
this is an official statement, which you can post in your blog, your
product with the current sandbox and the current way it is working,
is not compatible with our automation system and as your sandbox
does restrict often also the functionality of clean applications, we
do not see it fit in our test system right now. So it is not
possible to put you in a single whole product test, in the main test
it would not be possible anyway as we restrict the number of participants.
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