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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2010, 03:27:14 PM »

PcMag.com review of Comodo Anti Virus 5.0, though he does have Defense + installed?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369897,00.asp
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2010, 03:36:30 PM »

Let's get the advice from them:

Pros: already know and acknowledged Smiley

Cons:
Sandbox technology can prevent valid programs from installing or running correctly. Many alarming and confusing popups. Mediocre malware detection and very poor cleanup on already-infested systems.

What do the users call "confusing popups"? Maybe they should have only simple information?
Mediocre malware detection: let's improve CAV Smiley
Cleanup... Seems the challenge for some users. Let's go for it.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2010, 03:49:52 PM »

Seems like a fair review to me.

What do the users call "confusing popups"? Maybe they should have only simple information?
Or at least an option to only display simple information.

Mediocre malware detection: let's improve CAV Smiley
Cleanup... Seems the challenge for some users. Let's go for it.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »

Or at least an option to only display simple information.
Exactly. A button with (recommended) action.
Then a button (check mark) to expand the informations and telling more about it.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2010, 04:26:12 PM »

Let's get the advice from them:
Mediocre malware detection: let's improve CAV Smiley
Cleanup... Seems the challenge for some users. Let's go for it.

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And give the advice to them and other writers. Looks like a lot of them here ... Cool

I found some never realize that in the classical AV scheme is working formula: zero protection + percentage of detection = percentage of protection. In CIS: full protection - percentage of detection = percentage of user interaction.

Can not believe that in the past, I listened to a press review... Huh

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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2010, 09:15:02 PM »

This latest pcmag review surprised be me greatly. I often don't like reviews from this source, because I feel the tester many times lets his personal tastes come through his opinions. Not in this case.

There was one sentence that left me with a though and I know it was discussed already by other users in different threads: "If the folks at Comodo want to seriously contend that there's no hope for a malware-infested system, that the only recourse is to wipe it and start over, then they should simply omit malware removal from the product. Including it as a feature that performs this poorly will not impress the user"

I agree with that assesment. I hope Comodo re-thinks his train of thought, and give his AV detection/cleaning component a fair bump.

Good job Comodo for scoring so high up in keeping a "clean pc, clean" Smiley
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2010, 09:26:32 PM »

I hope Comodo re-thinks his train of thought, and give his AV detection/cleaning component a fair bump.
Cleaning is a step forward detection.
Detection will help a lot: reduce the user interaction and fear, allows cleaning.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2010, 10:04:43 PM »

comodo is starting to work cleaning abilities with the next versions. Up till now it has been about preventing infections, which it does very well.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2010, 11:58:39 PM »

This latest pcmag review surprised be me greatly. I often don't like reviews from this source, because I feel the tester many times lets his personal tastes come through his opinions. Not in this case.

There was one sentence that left me with a though and I know it was discussed already by other users in different threads: "If the folks at Comodo want to seriously contend that there's no hope for a malware-infested system, that the only recourse is to wipe it and start over, then they should simply omit malware removal from the product. Including it as a feature that performs this poorly will not impress the user"

I agree with that assesment. I hope Comodo re-thinks his train of thought, and give his AV detection/cleaning component a fair bump.


I had the same reaction, almost like NR was thinking my thoughts after me, weird!
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2010, 02:18:03 AM »

Good to see such a thorough testing and review.   He accurately pinpoints the areas where there is still room for improvement and confirms that with a little knowledge the user is fully protected.

No av on the market can do a 100% cleanup of an infested system, even with specialist tools such as Combofix there is no guarantee of that.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2010, 04:45:42 AM »

PcMag.com review of Comodo Anti Virus 5.0, though he does have Defense + installed?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369897,00.asp

I also test with a collection of the exact same samples that I've manually modified, changing the filename, file size, and some non-executable bytes. F-Secure Anti-Virus 2011 ($39.99 direct for three licenses, 3 stars) and Trend Micro didn't miss a single modified file; Norton AntiVirus 2011 ($39.99 direct, 4.5 stars), PC Tools Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus 2011 ($39.95 direct for three licenses, 4 stars) and several others missed just one. Comodo's on-access signature-based scanner must be a lot less flexible than these, as it missed fully two thirds of the hand-modified samples.

The reviewer from pcmag also identifies significant deficiency in CAV detection capabilities.  Really need to do something/rewrite code of CAV engine to become more sophisticated to counter the "bigs" in F-Secure, Trend Micro, Norton, etc.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2010, 05:21:43 AM »

Shh Lord DACS is coming!

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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2010, 06:02:22 PM »

The reviewer from pcmag also identifies significant deficiency in CAV detection capabilities.  Really need to do something/rewrite code of CAV engine to become more sophisticated to counter the "bigs" in F-Secure, Trend Micro, Norton, etc.

Since when Trend Micro is big (the mediocre local japanese market av vendor)Huh The best detection have G-Data with it's 2 engines and also Avira.
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2010, 03:15:48 PM »

http://www.raymond.cc/antivirus/webload.html

http://www.raymond.cc/antivirus/download.html
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Re: CIS Certifications, Test Results & Reviews
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2010, 04:56:46 PM »


Interesting.

edit: nvm, I was trying to search in a flash applet...
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