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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 01:46:12 PM »

So from this review what I understood is

Detection & Cleaning - AV detection needs to be improved irrespective of the millions signatures currently in the database. Cleaning needs to be improved. I agree both detection & cleaning needs to be improved. Detection will improve the usability more in a way.

Confusing Popups - I agree. Thats why I have asked a number of times that in the popups under security consideration the explanation should be little simple in the few options mode than in the more options mode.

Recommended Action on the Alert - I guess this will be solved or will be little easy to answer the popups in a more correct way when Threatcast is introduced again with new features, time to wait & watch what threatcast brings.

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2010, 02:54:37 PM »

The installation of these files got hosed  because of the following:
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All of the rest received a Defense+ warning immediately on initialization stating that the process had requested "unlimited access to your computer. In almost every case, it recommended sandboxing the installer,
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It's true that the user could choose to trust the utility instead of accepting the default action, but that's not a decision that should be left to the user. Most users couldn't distinguish a Trojan or scareware program from a legitimate utility just by looking.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2010, 03:57:42 PM »

Well... a silent automatic cleaning, if the threat is real, would be great  Smiley
Why would I want to click "allow" if it's a malware?

The ones that are detected...thats whats done....but what to do with the ones not detected?
sliently allow them?

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2010, 04:28:11 PM »

The ones that are detected...thats whats done....but what to do with the ones not detected?
sliently allow them?

Melih

Ho... so CIS doesn't detect some malware with AV and D+?

(I can play this game too Smiley )


D+ alerts which say "WARNING!!! DANGEROUS STUFF HERE!!! ALLOW?", that's what I meant  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2010, 05:48:53 PM »

Ho... so CIS doesn't detect some malware with AV and D+?

(I can play this game too Smiley )


D+ alerts which say "WARNING!!! DANGEROUS STUFF HERE!!! ALLOW?", that's what I meant  Smiley
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There's still a fair amount of popup when you have to deal with a virus, but it's reassuring, you're less likely to make a mistake now because of unjustified popups. If something popup in your face, you can pay attention to it. It wasn't really the case with CIS 3, D+ wasn't ready for prime time and I disabled it. But now it's far better.

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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 03:30:14 AM »

[at]EricJH: Well... reads his post...

The ones that are detected...thats whats done....but what to do with the ones not detected?
sliently allow them?

He really likes to misread what other people say.
He quoted me, and didn't even read the 2 sentences... what can I say.
He should stop treating other people like they're dumb and think about what's written a little more.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 04:49:56 AM »

Ho... so CIS doesn't detect some malware with AV and D+?

(I can play this game too Smiley )


D+ alerts which say "WARNING!!! DANGEROUS STUFF HERE!!! ALLOW?", that's what I meant  Smiley

Yes...i know...i was making a point for other's benefit Wink

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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 07:05:51 AM »

There's always going to be a problem when dealing with files that are 'unknown'.

The choices are:
1: to limit those files and treat them with suspicion as 'potential malware'
2: allow those files to run normally since they're not 'confirmed malware'

Option 1 is by far the best from a security perspective,although usability issues can arise.Option 2 ensures no such issues but offers a very real prospect of a security breach.

The only solution is to have an enormous whitelist of known good files to increase the likelihood that anything limited is indeed malicious while allowing as many legitimate programs as possible to run normally.

Improving blacklists and detection percentages helps to some degree but increasingly those technologies are struggling to keep up with the huge malware 'business' nowadays.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 10:33:08 AM »

We need a working Threatcast back!!!

These would make the decisions to the user so much simplier!

When is it coming back?
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 10:34:51 AM »

We need a working Threatcast back!!!

These would make the decisions to the user so much simplier!

When is it coming back?


but there is no decision for the user....
if its unknown...it will AUTOMATICALLY run in the sandbox....

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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 09:34:45 AM »

That's why I never liked pcmag's reviews. The reviewer is pretty much a Norton fanboy, and too used to it to learn how any other security suite works, because every security suite works differently from the others.

Of course other suites may be easier to use and/or have less popups, but you pay that with less security, as many professional sites has proven.

I don't think there's much else that can be done to lower popups count than Comodo already has done, by having a whitelist of applications and also a Sandbox. There must be something left to the user to choose, otherwise you'll end up with the security suite to decide by itself what's better for you, and that will make things even worse. I had a problem in the past with Norton, that it blocked something silently in the system, and that made the system to not see the router. You don't know how much time I've spent to understand it was Norton itself doing it, because I was thinking "it can't be it, why would it block a router?".

Every year Norton scores the max there, earning the Gold medal award and why? Because it has the less popups. Maybe because the reviewer likes how it works and looks.
He surely is not even considering protection anyway, because matousec's tests and all the various AV tests being done recently showing how good Comodo has got must mean something, and he doesn't seem to take that in consideration.

...so I now wonder how good could he be at analyzing security software, as it seems he cannot even understand the basics of it...

There is of course something that Comodo can still do to improve, but there always will be.
One thing I'd like to see is a better explanation of AV detections. For instance, Heuristics detections could be more explicative and clearly tell the user that the file in question may be legit.
But I know this requires work and they already are working hard on many areas to improve so I can't, and I don't want to, complain.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2010, 10:48:48 AM »

That's why I never liked pcmag's reviews. The reviewer is pretty much a Norton fanboy, and too used to it to learn how any other security suite works, because every security suite works differently from the others.

Of course other suites may be easier to use and/or have less popups, but you pay that with less security, as many professional sites has proven.

I don't think there's much else that can be done to lower popups count than Comodo already has done, by having a whitelist of applications and also a Sandbox. There must be something left to the user to choose, otherwise you'll end up with the security suite to decide by itself what's better for you, and that will make things even worse. I had a problem in the past with Norton, that it blocked something silently in the system, and that made the system to not see the router. You don't know how much time I've spent to understand it was Norton itself doing it, because I was thinking "it can't be it, why would it block a router?".

Every year Norton scores the max there, earning the Gold medal award and why? Because it has the less popups. Maybe because the reviewer likes how it works and looks.
He surely is not even considering protection anyway, because matousec's tests and all the various AV tests being done recently showing how good Comodo has got must mean something, and he doesn't seem to take that in consideration.

...so I now wonder how good could he be at analyzing security software, as it seems he cannot even understand the basics of it...

There is of course something that Comodo can still do to improve, but there always will be.
One thing I'd like to see is a better explanation of AV detections. For instance, Heuristics detections could be more explicative and clearly tell the user that the file in question may be legit.
But I know this requires work and they already are working hard on many areas to improve so I can't, and I don't want to, complain.

look at the result though Wink


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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2010, 12:08:45 PM »


 I had a problem in the past with Norton, that it blocked something silently in the system, and that made the system to not see the router. You don't know how much time I've spent to understand it was Norton itself doing it, because I was thinking "it can't be it, why would it block a router?".

one year ago it happened with me also but the culprit was bit-defender....i was on a trial period for 30 days..from that day onwards i want to be my boss...not norton or bitdefender..i like pop ups....it gives me an added sense of protection ....cause i know the suite is working. with comodo i am so happy to receive a pop up [at] any time...but these days it has become so silent....some times i gives him a wake up call and he says dude  i am here...dont worry...ha.ha.. Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2010, 08:53:11 AM »

very nice score!! congrats!  Thumb Up
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