Detection vs Prevention : Your first line of Defense

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[Melih]

Thanks for the heads up!

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quaks like a duck.....

There is billions of dollars worth of an  industry and will take them time to admit publicly that what they make $billion dollars from doesn't cut it yet in the current market.

But one can only bury their hands in the sand for a time, otherwise they will suffocate...

Melih

[Kolosos]

First Hello
it's nice to see more commercial companies coming up with ideas how to cross finance entirely free consumer Software projects and still not hurting their buisness with it, i think Comodo has a head start here against many established Windows Security ISV's indeed.
The State of the Art Prevention instead off Detection approach shows that and is really needed but not only on the Software Level also on the OS leve itself prevention in the future is vital against all the new coming Malware threats especially type 2 and 3 Malware.
In the future those will play a big role but then also Comodos approaches here will show it's first weakneses against these complete new threats as Joana Rutkowska and others trying to prevent in their Research and who knows maybe even Comodo will be a known name in this Research field in the Future
Tough for the time being Comodos Firewall even without it's SPI functionality seems to be a perfect gift for the average consumers to protect their old OSes better from todays threats so the new Generation of those Prevention Systems can be developed in the same time.
And all this for free i have really to take my head of infront of you Melih and the entire Comodo Staff, even if i think a closed source approach isn't really the right way togo here for fast and the most efficient prevention results, but who knows maybe we gonna see a CFP OSS  (a real community approach) version soon think about it Melih, think about the name Comodo from one day to the other the biggest everywhere and even in OSS Security this would be a big WIN/WIN/WIN for you guys im sure, i see you allready looking out for good Staff in those direction (aquireing nsclean (boclean), my advice bring those guys to you that's much easier, then allways to lookout for who you could buy next  and yeah OSS is best suited for that.

PS: Where is the labs.comodo.com

[Melih]

First Hello
it's nice to see more commercial companies coming up with ideas how to cross finance entirely free consumer Software projects and still not hurting their buisness with it, i think Comodo has a head start here against many established Windows Security ISV's indeed.
The State of the Art Prevention instead off Detection approach shows that and is really needed but not only on the Software Level also on the OS leve itself prevention in the future is vital against all the new coming Malware threats especially type 2 and 3 Malware.
In the future those will play a big role but then also Comodos approaches here will show it's first weakneses against these complete new threats as Joana Rutkowska and others trying to prevent in their Research and who knows maybe even Comodo will be a known name in this Research field in the Future
Tough for the time being Comodos Firewall even without it's SPI functionality seems to be a perfect gift for the average consumers to protect their old OSes better from todays threats so the new Generation of those Prevention Systems can be developed in the same time.
And all this for free i have really to take my head of infront of you Melih and the entire Comodo Staff, even if i think a closed source approach isn't really the right way togo here for fast and the most efficient prevention results, but who knows maybe we gonna see a CFP OSS  (a real community approach) version soon think about it Melih, think about the name Comodo from one day to the other the biggest everywhere and even in OSS Security this would be a big WIN/WIN/WIN for you guys im sure, i see you allready looking out for good Staff in those direction (aquireing nsclean (boclean), my advice bring those guys to you that's much easier, then allways to lookout for who you could buy next  and yeah OSS is best suited for that.

PS: Where is the labs.comodo.com

Thanks for the post Kolosos

Actually as it happens only last week we were talking about exposing all the R&D we do as people don't realise just how much R&D Comodo does and it would be simply mind blowing to expose it all.

thanks
Melih

[asker]

Hi Melih.
I see comodo firewall is a good peace of software. Beside that I use comodo memory firewall and no other security product. I would like to know if it is safe to use internet explorere 7 on vista home premium, or is it better to stick with firefox anyway. I do not know if comodo firewall will protect me  when/if I visit malicious website from those malware that silently install without my consent.
Can you enlighten me about this please.
thank
Tomy

[Melih]

with CPFv3 and Comodo Memory Firewall it will be very (VERY) hard anyone to silently install anything without you knowing about it! Enjoy your surfing!

Melih

[LeoniAquila]

with CPFv3 and Comodo Memory Firewall it will be very (VERY) hard anyone to silently install anything without you knowing about it! Enjoy your surfing!

Melih

Any hint on when CMF gets into CFP? (L)

LA

[asker]

Dear Melih.
Some time ago I had a conversation with an editor of a computer magazine about av-s. I stood up for prevention when he was talking about anti virus programs and I felt pretty good about myself thinking that I had to be someone more informed about security trends. Than he told me that a lot of anti-viruses had already implemented hips. nod, kaspersky, bitdefender etc. Heck, now I have it, trying to be smart, I told myself.
He was right, was not he?
Antivirus programs are gaining ground again, cos they are implementing hips. So they are again one step ahead.
What say you bro? Are "we" losing again?


Thomas

[Melih]

Dear Melih.
Some time ago I had a conversation with an editor of a computer magazine about av-s. I stood up for prevention when he was talking about anti virus programs and I felt pretty good about myself thinking that I had to be someone more informed about security trends. Than he told me that a lot of anti-viruses had already implemented hips. nod, kaspersky, bitdefender etc. Heck, now I have it, trying to be smart, I told myself.
He was right, was not he?
Antivirus programs are gaining ground again, cos they are implementing hips. So they are again one step ahead.
What say you bro? Are "we" losing again?


Thomas

he he..
there is a simple test! Take the latest viruses/malware and throw them against all the best known AVs.... and watch  your machine get infected!!!

then clean up your PC.. reinstall OS etc...

then install CFP v3 and do the same thing...
you will see difference!

The proof is the pudding....

here is a challange to the editor you spoke to: Here is a $1000 bet: He takes the top 3 AVs.. put them all together if he wishes then we will provide the latest Day zero viruses/malware and throw it against them.. lets see if they stop them or not... If not.. why not? and why can CFP stop them?

So go for it and ask that editor to take up this $1000 challange!

Melih

[axl]

he he..
there is a simple test! Take the latest viruses/malware and throw them against all the best known AVs.... and watch  your machine get infected!!!

then clean up your PC.. reinstall OS etc...

then install CFP v3 and do the same thing...
you will see difference!

The proof is the pudding....

here is a challange to the editor you spoke to: Here is a $1000 bet: He takes the top 3 AVs.. put them all together if he wishes then we will provide the latest Day zero viruses/malware and throw it against them.. lets see if they stop them or not... If not.. why not? and why can CFP stop them?

So go for it and ask that editor to take up this $1000 challange!

Melih

There he goes, the Lone Ranger of Security, going in with both guns blazing!

Go ahead; change the way they think.
 

axl

[Melih]

There he goes, the Lone Ranger of Security, going in with both guns blazing!

Go ahead; change the way they think.
 

axl

someone has to!

Melih

[MikeH]

ComputerWorld has an interesting article:
The future of antivirus
Is there a way out of the arms race?

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9077338&pageNumber=1

Regards,
Mike

[asker]

he he..
there is a simple test! Take the latest viruses/malware and throw them against all the best known AVs.... and watch  your machine get infected!!!

then clean up your PC.. reinstall OS etc...

then install CFP v3 and do the same thing...
you will see difference!

The proof is the pudding....

here is a challange to the editor you spoke to: Here is a $1000 bet: He takes the top 3 AVs.. put them all together if he wishes then we will provide the latest Day zero viruses/malware and throw it against them.. lets see if they stop them or not... If not.. why not? and why can CFP stop them?

So go for it and ask that editor to take up this $1000 challange!

Melih

Dear Melih
I would have argued in the past and tryed to prove myself. Now I have no intention neither will to argue and persuade that computer editor about who is right and who wrong. Everyone is responsible for themselves, so if he insist his way, let it be. I respect it.
I can not change others. And this is not my purpose. I am to be changed first.
But anyway thanks for supporting my stand about comodo hips vs av-s. it is good to hear you are so confident about your firewall and hips. I am sure they are excellent apps. Greatful for them too.

regards to all comodo team

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