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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2012, 03:38:29 PM »

Saying something with all certainty suggests you have a solid foundation. But only at the end of your post you post a somewhat disjointed IMHO of which is not immediately clear what it refers to.
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #121 on: August 02, 2012, 01:17:38 AM »


"...but when companies add scanning signatures into their databases for viruses or what many would call "malware" before any such payloads are even reported in any way, even to the companies themselves, it makes one wonder.

There has always been speculation that security software companies themselves have even released malware that their software is ready to detect.

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Thank you, Joe!

I used to work in computer mfg. many years ago in the Silicone Valley and my circle of friends reflected that. Also due to my position it was required that I be present at top level meetings with all dept. heads. I had no activity in the programming area there, knew next to nothing about it. Regardless, I 'heard stuff'.

I was privy to the most intimate knowledge exchanged at all levels and in corporate meetings or afterwards at Happy Hour when lips were loosened. That's part of the reason I posted what I did about the possible source of some malware. Far as I know there was no more desperately competitive, cut-throat aggressive, anything goes and no holds barred industry in the history of manufacturing. The intrigues were beyond amazing.

Imagine another company inserting insiders into the company to attempt the highjacking of a semi-truck double trailer load of components just to delay promised delivery date and cause a contract failure! Assembly line equipment sabotage? Sure, why not!? ANYTHING GOES were the operative words.

Why? Because the 'Lifetime' of a product from the day it was first thought up through design, R&D, testing, marketing, introduction and to the end of its 'New Product' market-advantage life was no more than 12 months - Obsolete! That is Competitive with a capital C when $Billions are at stake...


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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #122 on: September 02, 2012, 04:55:06 AM »

I'm not surprised at all. Big corporations will do just about anything to get money. I bet my money that some ppl here will think that Coca-Cola is a good organisation while in fact they are not. But that's a bit  Off-Topic!
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #123 on: September 02, 2012, 11:12:36 AM »

The best example to this is current events between Samsung and Apple.
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #124 on: September 02, 2012, 01:42:53 PM »

every one is behind money or the benefit of others  nothing comes free ... but we the user need to choose the best that money can buy for there suitable needs ..  i would say no  antivirus is the must .. choosing the best is in the hands of the User  .   
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #125 on: September 08, 2012, 10:05:57 AM »

Look at following pictures:

http://fotkica.com/slika.php?slika=228478_103563750_Capture.PNG

http://fotkica.com/slika.php?slika=228478_61196774_Capture.PNG

This is bad and ugly marketing. This is lie, a big one.
Comodo never do this thing, and because of that we are loving it.
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #126 on: September 08, 2012, 10:29:37 AM »

.. This is bad and ugly marketing. ..
I agree, that is bad. On wonder on what basis their marketing people support these claims. What's the source of these images?
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #127 on: September 08, 2012, 10:35:39 AM »

I agree, that is bad. On wonder on what basis their marketing people support these claims. What's the source of these images?

Image source for PandaAV is captured 15 days ago, and for IObit is here: http://www.iobit.com/advanced-systemcare-antivirus.html

Shame on them. I really dont know how to react on this kind of terrible marketing tricks. For the worst, people dont know too much, and they belive in this false results.
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #128 on: September 10, 2012, 10:32:25 AM »

terrible marketing tricks

Rather shame on the marketing. Not just terrible.

The amount of convinced people will tend to zero.

I hope the advertised product is a bad one. Because the advertising would at least protect users by de-convincing Cheesy
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #129 on: September 10, 2012, 10:58:41 AM »

Sn. Abdulhayoglu,

Internet uzerinden alis-veris islemlerinde, kullanici hesaplarinda kolaylik saglayabilecek Pay-Pal calisma prensibine ek bir sistem hakkinda bazi fikirlerim var.

Bu fikrimi paylasabilecegim ve tartisabilecegim bir yazilim-teknoloji firmasi arayisindayim.Sizinle irtibata gecmek istememin sebebi, firmanizin faaliyet alaninin ve ozgecmisinin dusundugum sisteme yakin olmasi.

Firmaniz ve sahsiniz hakkinda bilgiyi tesadufen 10.9.2012 tarihli Hurriyet gazetesinde kose yazarlarinda Sn.Vahap Munyar in kose yazisindan edindim ve irtibata gecmek icin blogunuza uye oldum.

Konu ile daha detayli bilgi verebilmem icin sizden bir e-posta adresi rica ediyorum.

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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2012, 07:20:09 PM »

Sn. Abdulhayoglu,

Internet uzerinden alis-veris islemlerinde, kullanici hesaplarinda kolaylik saglayabilecek Pay-Pal calisma prensibine ek bir sistem hakkinda bazi fikirlerim var.

Bu fikrimi paylasabilecegim ve tartisabilecegim bir yazilim-teknoloji firmasi arayisindayim.Sizinle irtibata gecmek istememin sebebi, firmanizin faaliyet alaninin ve ozgecmisinin dusundugum sisteme yakin olmasi.

Firmaniz ve sahsiniz hakkinda bilgiyi tesadufen 10.9.2012 tarihli Hurriyet gazetesinde kose yazarlarinda Sn.Vahap Munyar in kose yazisindan edindim ve irtibata gecmek icin blogunuza uye oldum.

Konu ile daha detayli bilgi verebilmem icin sizden bir e-posta adresi rica ediyorum.

Saygilarimla,
Mak.Muh. S.Bayraktar



Can anyone decipher this for the rest of us?
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #131 on: September 11, 2012, 01:20:04 AM »

Can anyone decipher this for the rest of us?

Google translate ;-)
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Mr. Abdulhayoglu,

 Transactions of shopping over the Internet, Pay-Pal working principle of user accounts that can assist've got some ideas about additional system.

 This is a software-technology firm in my mind arayisindayim.Sizinle can share and discuss the reason I wanted to contact, your company who seemed to resume operating area and is close to the system.

 Incidentally information about our company and myself in the newspaper Hurriyet columnist Sn.Vahap We Spent dated 10.09.2012 made ​​in his column became a member of and to contact the blog.

 In order to provide more detailed information on the subject you would like an e-mail address.

 Sincerely,
 Mech. S.Bayraktar
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #132 on: September 27, 2012, 09:34:00 PM »

 Police Its verrrrry easy to sorte out the problems with viruses,trojans and the rest of politician and bankers.
You internet provider should be full responsible for any treats ,and if you cutch a infection mannnnnny Grin
back quaranty .
After a couple of days we all around the world will gets a free internet Grin
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #133 on: September 28, 2012, 06:57:40 PM »

Police Its verrrrry easy to sorte out the problems with viruses,trojans and the rest of politician and bankers.
You internet provider should be full responsible for any treats ,and if you cutch a infection mannnnnny Grin
back quaranty .
After a couple of days we all around the world will gets a free internet Grin

In theory, that could work, but in practice, it's called censorship and opens a whole new can of works.
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Re: Is the AntiVirus biggest fraud in the security world?
« Reply #134 on: September 28, 2012, 08:47:43 PM »

 panic Grin

Do You realy belive there is no censorship now?
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