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« on: January 25, 2008, 04:57:10 PM »

Hi Guys,

Here is another BASIC outbound protection filtering test for testing firewalling functionality. It tests data transfer over ICMP and a firewall's reaction to it. Any average firewall should pass these basic ones though there are still many which cant.

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 05:20:57 PM »

Downloaded and ran it. CFP 3 passed it, but my hardware firewall failed it, so now we got another reason to use CFP Grin
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 05:29:55 PM »

Indeed!

this is a basic test that any decent firewall should be able pass.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 05:36:39 PM »

Just want to add one thing. Disabling all ICMP-traffic with IPSec will make you pass the test.
With CFP you get Error: icmpEcho Status=11010, but with IPSec, you get Error: icmpEcho Status=11003.
What's the difference between 11010 and 11003?
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 12:01:58 AM »

Considering I have Defense+, The "Firewall" alert did pop up, and I passed all tests.

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2008, 12:07:51 AM »

Considering I allowed a lot of outgoing ICMP connection rules (for uTorrent), I still passed Thumb Up
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 07:39:00 AM »

same good results here: first alert from Def+, I allow it, and then an alert from the firewall itself. Also in my case when I disable CFP, the router firewall doesn't pass the test.

By the way it's not the first time I notice that: when I allow or block something from Def+ or the firewall without checking the remember box, things are being remembered for the Windows Session. Like for that test, I didn't check remember and the ICMP traffic from it keeps being blocked with no alert, starting with the second test.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 10:46:57 AM »

Actually, I found it wasn't for the logon session.  I restarted the app and CFP alerted again.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 06:00:56 PM »

hey, if I can pass this test with v3 installed in Basic (ie, no D+) by blocking the executable trying to connect to the internet, how is there no outbound protection?  Wink

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 06:11:01 PM »

hey, if I can pass this test with v3 installed in Basic (ie, no D+) by blocking the executable trying to connect to the internet, how is there no outbound protection?  Wink

LM

same here, as i said in my post above, I allowed the process with Def+, and still got an alert from the firewall. Good news for those guys down there at Scott's newsletter!  Cheers

(also wanted to let you know I posted something there tonight: http://blog.scotsnewsletter.com/2008/01/22/comodos-ceo-attacks-scots-newsletter-product-decision/#comment-306 )
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 10:49:57 PM »

hey, if I can pass this test with v3 installed in Basic (ie, no D+) by blocking the executable trying to connect to the internet, how is there no outbound protection?  Wink

LM

FYI:

That "so called recommended firewall" was failing this basic test in its most advanced mode. You can test yourself if they havent fixed yet. And people still compare it with CFP 3...

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 05:08:47 PM »

The reason many firewall have poor outbound protection for ICMP is that is rarely used to leak data.
Comodo should make a leaktest that sends data (a short string written by the user) using pings (e.g. using 16 different sizes of ping, each one representing 4 bits) to a comodo server with software able to decode the pings and show the strings in a website.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 08:05:04 PM »

The reason many firewall have poor outbound protection for ICMP is that is rarely used to leak data.
Comodo should make a leaktest that sends data (a short string written by the user) using pings (e.g. using 16 different sizes of ping, each one representing 4 bits) to a comodo server with software able to decode the pings and show the strings in a website.

Here is a trojan that LEAKS data(personal information) over ICMP:
http://www.websense.com/securitylabs/alerts/alert.php?AlertID=570

Never mind leaking data, there are various DDoS Attacks Tools that use ICMP protocol. It is not just leaking the data. A User's computer can be a zomby and his firewall may not be detecting this at all...  Another example: http://ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=2776

I dont think most firewalls would fail this test. At least the decent ones... It is as basic as grc.com leaktest...

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 07:15:22 AM »

hmmm

For some strange reason CFP 3.0.16.295 does not pass the ICMP2-test!!!  Angry

"Your firewall has FAILED the test"

ICMP1-test passed...

I'm confused!

Harry
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2008, 11:04:11 AM »

Harry, did you answer No to the firewall alert? 

Also, this is the incorrect thread to be posting about leak testing, so I'll be moving your and my post to the appropriate one. [Done]
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