What is this? (The Shield Firewall 5.0)

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[Goose18]

axl, do you think that maybe the reason so many comodo users post in here with concern is because they want to make sure comodo isn't being ripped off? Which still isn't 100% clear to me yet actually.....

[CajunTek]

I have avoided this like the plague.. and I am a Comodo fan (use the firewall on the Vista side of my box and BOClean on both sides). However:

This is not old, (October last year)

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2008/03/a_crooked_review_or_an_advance.html

[Rednose]

Hey CajunTek

Thank you very much for that link. Those are the same guys as we are speaking of here 

So, after putting together all of the clues, I can reveal a brilliantly unethical master plan:
1) Create a product, or buy a license from an existing vendor.
2) Set up a fake independent review site with affiliate links, ranking the products in the order of what would bring the most money. Make the review site look as unrelated to the product site as possible. Put up a disclaimer, saying it is a subjective opinion only.
3) Buy the expensive top-slot sponsored ads from the search engine to draw the traffic to the review site. Since people know the top slot sponsored ads are expensive, they are going to trust the review site more. But, the bottom line for the review site is that if a high percentage of the incoming clicks from the sponsored ads go out via more expensive affiliate links, then there is a positive cash flow.

No comment needed

Greetz, Red.

[CajunTek]

Hey CajunTek

Thank you very much for that link. Those are the same guys as we are speaking of here 

No comment needed

Greetz, Red.

And the review is still there:

http://www.starreviews.com/Antivirus-Software.aspx

[Jbob]

I have avoided this like the plague.. and I am a Comodo fan (use the firewall on the Vista side of my box and BOClean on both sides). However:

This is not old, (October last year)

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2008/03/a_crooked_review_or_an_advance.html

Oh darn those trolls over at Symantec!     Hopefully this will get Melih's attention.  Whether this is a good or bad thing, I was kinda neutral until the Symantec thing was brought forth.

Another thing that seems to keep getting left off the discussion although it was mentioned earlier in thread is of all the 3rd party Hosts file that block this site(s) as well.  Now that could be a direct result of still being on the rogue list however I'm pretty sure some of these Hosts authors check to see if the entries are still needed.

[jp10558]

Hey CajunTek

Thank you very much for that link. Those are the same guys as we are speaking of here 

No comment needed

Greetz, Red.

Is this that different from various "think tank" reviews of MS Products or the various ISO corruption for OOXML? I'm still not seeing this as any different than "Standard Industry Practice". I sure don't like it, but really - a random review site? Ads that promote a particular product? Biased reviews (anyone *ever* read PCWorld etc?)?

This isn't even news...

And it's not like they aren't actually providing a service of support for the product. I mean, has anyone investigated the free phone support after purchase? Does it work/help? Do they actually answer?

And I still think this has next to nothing to do with Comodo. No users are getting ripped off here, the firewall isn't installing spyware, and if you actually get the support, you got what you paid for.

No one wants to test it out - all we can do is speculate at this point.

[CajunTek]

Is this that different from various "think tank" reviews of MS Products or the various ISO corruption for OOXML? I'm still not seeing this as any different than "Standard Industry Practice". I sure don't like it, but really - a random review site? Ads that promote a particular product? Biased reviews (anyone *ever* read PCWorld etc?)?

This isn't even news...

And it's not like they aren't actually providing a service of support for the product. I mean, has anyone investigated the free phone support after purchase? Does it work/help? Do they actually answer?

And I still think this has next to nothing to do with Comodo. No users are getting ripped off here, the firewall isn't installing spyware, and if you actually get the support, you got what you paid for.

No one wants to test it out - all we can do is speculate at this point.

Yes... It is different... Did you read it and read that the reviewer and the top reviewee... are one and the same.

[Rednose]

If Melih wants his customers to trust Comodo this is for sure the way to go

Greetz, Red.

[Melih]

Ya, anyone else noticed how many "new" members decided to come out of the shadows just to contribute to this thread?

Hmmmm......

 

i thought they were called "Competitors" not "new members"   hehe.. insulting our user's intelligence by these pathetic and desperate acts will only help Comodo as the only open and frank Security Authority that is on users side!

Thank you lads!!!

Melih

[Melih]

I have avoided this like the plague.. and I am a Comodo fan (use the firewall on the Vista side of my box and BOClean on both sides). However:

This is not old, (October last year)

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2008/03/a_crooked_review_or_an_advance.html

you see, thats why we have www.usertrust.com !!!! a user feedback platform that provides "Social Authentication" of any site!!

Melih

[CajunTek]

i thought they were called "Competitors" not "new members"   hehe.. insulting our user's intelligence by these pathetic and desperate acts will only help Comodo as the only open and frank Security Authority that is on users side!

Thank you lads!!!

Melih

I am not reading what you are reading here... and I am not competitor... nor exactly a new member.

[Rednose]

I would call us worried users, nothing more

Greetz, Red.

[Melih]

I am not reading what you are reading here... and I am not competitor... nor exactly a new member.

that wasn't for you Cajun Tek.. its the single posters.... (people register, make stupid statements and leave.. ).. (eg: a user called Kebab....or other trolls like him...)

thanks
Melih

[Floyd]

Microsoft MVP Suzi Turner and Spyware Warrior Eric Howes are very respectable members of the security community and, beleve me, NOT that hard to find

Greetz, Red.

Hey Rednose, you asked me to believe you, that they were NOT that hard to find, and I did...
So what happened, where are they?? 
I thought you were going to help us all out and use your great creds to get us the real deal so this can be settled once and for all!
I am losing trust in you, buddy. 
Haha, maybe you should think about changing your id from Rednose to PinocchioNose!
 

Take it easy, pal!
 

[Rednose]

Surf to :

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php

Sign up and ask Suzi what you would like to know in :

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewforum.php?f=23&sid=6bef1b7102d98748a1c1b5aaaaeadc2a

As you can see Eric Howes is on that forum too ( eburger68 ) even with an email adres.

I hope that will help you

Greetz, Red.

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