What is this? (The Shield Firewall 5.0)

[Guest]

[Rednose]

Mr. Arthur Frischman, why should I beleve you on your word ? Why should I test your products ? Why should I investigate how you advertise your products nowadays ? Your company made a mistake, so ist's up to you to correct that ! Like I said : There is a clear procedure to get off the rogue list, and I beleve you aware of that procedure since 2005. So please don't complain about old posts if you had time enough to do something about it.

Greetz, Red.

[axl]

Ya, I expected this, which is why I gave the example of Sony and Microsoft earlier...
There will always be those who prefer to be on Team Rational while others want to be on Club Irrational.
Regardless, life went on for those two corporations, just as I expect it will for Comodo and PCSecurityShield.


Take care,
axl.

[Rednose]

Axl, I repect your opinion, but I also DO CARE about Comodo.

Greetz, Red.

[Melih]

I am sure we all care about Comodo and what it is doing for end users. Arthur has been open and has come and explained himself (including his efforts to try get himself off that list).

Anything else we can do? pls let me know..

thanks

Melih

[Floyd]

Axl, I repect your opinion, but I also DO CARE about Comodo.

Greetz, Red.

Dude, did you read all of Arthur's post, like the part where he said he tried to contact them?
Did you look at the Spywarrior page and see when it wasn't updated since last May? 

[CybrGuy]

I posted over in the SW forum about the age of the Rogue Apps list (but not this issue specifically).  Hopefully Suzi or someone in authority will respond.

[Rednose]

Microsoft MVP Suzi Turner and Spyware Warrior Eric Howes are very respectable members of the security community and, beleve me, NOT that hard to find

Greetz, Red.

[Melih]

Microsoft MVP Suzi Turner and Spyware Warrior Eric Howes are very respectable members of the security community and, beleve me, NOT that hard to find

Greetz, Red.

In this case, maybe someone should get in touch with them and ask them about the above issue!?

Melih

[Floyd]

Microsoft MVP Suzi Turner and Spyware Warrior Eric Howes are very respectable members of the security community and, beleve me, NOT that hard to find

Greetz, Red.

Seems like you are the well-connected one here, maybe you could pull some strings and get the real skinny?

[Frosty Port]

at this point IMO The Shield may or may not be this Rouge company they may have done some shady deals in the passed and it's hard for a company to shake them kind of tags. Evan spy wear  terminator had a bit of worry from there tool bare. and it's still looked at by many as untrustworthy!! but many people use it and it's good to see that there are many people here on this forum that cares enough to bring this out in the open. and get to the bottom of it but at some point it just has to be let go you did your job and now it's time for the user of any kind of software to do there own looking if they fill hay i like it I'm going to use it or if they say not me.. but i think the move that TheShield rep did come in here and make that offer and he did take the time to put that software on the spot to any one that can find a spy problem with it so my advice if you think he can be prove them  wrong. get the KEY and run it threw all the test you can and report what you find. {not intended to be in the defense or taken side just my views}     

[Rafel]

I'm bored:
- Maybe PCSecurityShield made a mistake in the past. But i think they have well reputated partners and ofer reputated products.
- I trust COMODO. If COMODO trusts that company, i have got reasons to do it too.
- The articles where their products are rogue are very old.
- Arthur is here doing explanations about his products.
 he offers if you can test his peoducts.
Sorry, but now i'm sure PCSecurityShield isn't rogue.
St was a rogue product, now i'm ST user. And no problems.
The bar of COMODO was classified as spyware for some pages, and they said COMODO was a rogue company.
Do u think COMODO is rogue?
Now i think PCSS is a trusted company.

[The Dean]

I'm a newbie around here and rarely post (but lurk, on occasion).  For what it is worth, here's my 2 cents, on this issue:

The company distributing PCSecurityShield has a well-known reputation as a rogue company.  It is important to note that, the reputation is primarily due to their sleazy marketing.  There products (at least recently) are legitimate security products, but the way they choose to sell and distribute these products is suspect.  One can take the association with Comodo as a sign that PCSecurityShield is a REAL security product.

Comodo has every right to sell the rights to their engine for rebranding.  This is NOT contrary to their offering the free firewall for life, as they still do that under their own brand.  And, has been noted, PCSecurityShield offers free tech support, so it is clear that they offer more than a simple rebranded Comodo firewall.

Again, as has been noted already, the "rogue" designation is from some time ago.  Perhaps PCSecurityShield is changing their approach, and no longer engages in misleading scans, and such.  I don't know that they have stopped these practices, but I am suggesting that they may no longer do these things, and the security community hasn't noticed yet.  I tend to doubt things have changed too much, with them.  Most companies who claim to have reformed, do so for a limited time, or in a limited way...yet, they continue to straddle the line between what is acceptable and what isn't.  Companies looking closely at that line, and always look for an opportunity to exploit the line, almost invariably cross it, at some point.  As PCSecurityShield is a MARKETING company, and not a SECURITY company, I assume their sole concern is for the bottom line.

My opinion is, if they are serious about changing their methods, then this is a non-issue.  If, however, they are still engaging in questionable marketing, then Comodo would be wise to terminate any association with them.  As we all know, things are bad out there, REAL BAD.  Any monetary support for a company actively involved in muddying the waters and adding to the confusion as to what is, and isn't, legitimate practice, would be disgraceful.  Comodo's reputation will surely be compromised if PCSecurityShield is deemed to still be dirty, and Comodo continues to do business with them.

I have to confess to a total disdain for "affiliate marketing" and "pay per download" distribution.  They are the Internet's dirty little secret.  If I were King, I would attempt to abolish them, altogether.  Of course, that will not happen.  But, as a consumer, I make every attempt to steer clear from products and services engaged in these practices, and as a professional I try not to use or recommend these products.  Obviously, it is impossible to use NO products engaged in these practices, as they are already too well established.  But, make no mistake about it, when you engage in deals with individuals and companies whose actions you cannot control, you are very likely to get burned.

As a long time user of Comodo (and a computer tech who installs and recommends the product on a daily basis), I trust Comodo to properly investigate the situation and make the correct decision.  If everything turns out to be clean and above-board, I hope the contract is lucrative for Comodo, so they can continue to develop and distribute such excellent products.  However, if PCSecurityShield turns out to still be a suspect company (and we will know soon enough) and Comodo continues to support them, I will be using, installing and recommending another product. 

[panic]

All hail the king!

Thanks for your logical, articulate and considered post.

As a long time user of Comodo (and a computer tech who installs and recommends the product on a daily basis), I trust Comodo to properly investigate the situation and make the correct decision.

If they make an incorrect decision, we can always vote with our feet.

Thanks again,
Ewen :-)

[Floyd]

I like Comodo Firewall Pro and since Comodo gives it to me for free, I like Comodo!
If you think I am going to use an inferior product on my machine just because Comodo does business with someone else who has NEVER done anything to me or anyone I know just because of some posts about a few spam emails which I cannot verify 100% you have got to be nuts!!
 
This has got to be the funniest thing I have read in a while, LMAO!!
 
I mean really, Comodo doesn't even get enough from me to pay for the bandwidth I use on this forum, why would I think Comodo should listen to me if I give them an ultimatum about who they do business with, ROFLMAO!!!

[Floyd]

However, if PCSecurityShield turns out to still be a suspect company (and we will know soon enough) and Comodo continues to support them, I will be using, installing and recommending another product. 

You trust Comodo's judgment when it comes to putting applications into the Trusted List on your machine, but you can't trust Comodo's judgment when it comes to choosing a business partner that doesn't affect your machine at all!
Hahaha!!

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